Talk:List of Quebec wineries

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[edit] Objection to the deletion

I object to the deletion. 99% of the wineries tend to be not notable, unless regionally. The wineries of BC are absolutely unknown in Quebec for example (and their wines practically unavailable), yet I do not doubt that some or even many are well known to drinkers of New World red wines on the West Coast. I doubt there is a universal way to verify notability in this field, especially across languages. Among the list of Quebec wineries here (which is pretty much ALL of them as far as I know), many have award-winning products:

• http://www.orpailleur.ca/english/english_site/products/products.html (not much of a white wine drinker myself, but I can tell you that the Vin de Marquise and the Vin de glace (Ice Wine) are excellent and deserve their medals.)
• http://www.cepdargent.com/distinction/index.php
• http://www3.sympatico.ca/morou/medailla.html

I can easily add an article for each of the better-known wineries that won national & international awards. This should take me a couple hours by following the example of other wineries I guess.

Many of the Quebec wineries also do ciders and are much better known for their ciders, especially ice ciders. There are also maple, raspberry, blueberry etc. desert wines which are quite popular. This article is part of a project of mine to improve, first on the French-language side, then in English translation, all Quebec cuisine and food related articles including beers, wines and ciders. (See fr:Cuisine québécoise compared to Cuisine of Quebec for which I have not done the translation yet and the fr:Bière québécoise vs Quebec Beer. I have a lot of work to do! First add the content, then translate. Naturally, it is faster to translate things like List of Quebec microbreweries or the one being proposed for deletion!)

Also, I believe the list is already somewhat informative by showing the region where the winery is located (clicking on the region link leads to a page with a map) and does not contain self-promoting links to the Web sites of the wineries. I am opened to any suggestion on how to improve the list. Maybe it can be turned into a more descriptive table. -- Mathieugp (talk) 14:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate the response. Since you have valid objections, I will remove the prod for now to give some time for development of a Quebec wine article and hopefully individual articles on the wineries that are notable enough to pass WP:CORP. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 17:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)