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[edit] Verifiability

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[edit] Why the association with a phallus?

Except for "becuz someone said so" of course. Surprise me. How would a god even care about social rules? The Shiva Lingum has nothing to do with a Phallus . You people who say so are ignorant fools! —Preceding unsigned comment added by N33 (talk • contribs) 12:19, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Read [1]. For association of Shiva with phallus, book by Indian Hindu author and not a westerner.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 14:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

The association with the phallus has been started by western Indologists just to demonize and denigrate Hinduism/India. People like Wendy Doniger O'Flaherty (U.Chicago head of Religious Studies) insist on giving homoerotic descriptions of various deities including the Lingam. The Lingam actually depicts the FORMLESS aspect of the Supreme; as alluded to in the article--"beyond the three gunas"! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.39.64 (talk) 18:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thats just shameless prudence. Why would "phallic" be bad? Whats wrong with genitals? Its not the idea of the lingam being phallic that is imported into India, but the prudence is imported in India. And its not becuz you may be Indian yourself that you are right! Many lingams have details (d**khead for instance) carved in it. But you probably think that only represents the brain. Patriarchic bullshit, thats what it is.--N33 (talk) 04:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merge? Merged!

What's there to discuss? Shiva lingham stones is not only wrongly spelled, but contains incorrect information about the origin of lingams. The stones found in the Narmada river are mainly silas and not lingams. The link there is hardly reliable as it is a merchant website offering lingams and other stones for sale = unreliable. I'll merge what I can and then tag that article for deletion, removing the merge tags. Ekantik ^talk 03:15, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Why is there no South Indian interpretation of the origin of the cult of worshipping Siva as in Sangam literature and word Siva? User:Senthilkumaras