User talk:LiamE

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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Dauer 962 3 WikiProject Cricket 4 Wasim 5 Dartford 6 Three tons in three matches 7 Carl Froch 8 Wasim Akram - apologies 9 Cybersquire - I appreciate the help 10 Bob Taylor 11 All rounder examples 12 WikiProject Cricket 13 Second Ypres 14 Kent, Papermaking 15 Mahendra Singh Dhoni - removing fanpov tag 16 Sutcliffe 17 KP 18 Removed comments? 19 Trescothick 20 Hutton 21 "Second most popular" 22 Removal of comments, warnings

[edit] Welcome

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[edit] Dauer 962

The Dauer 962 was used in GT1 class racing, which at the time required that a homologation run of 25 units be produced in road-legal form and sold to the public. The 962 was allowed to compete, so it must have met the regulation. The list of automotibe superlatives seen here gives the following defintion of a production vehicle: 1. 20 or more examples must have been made by the original vehicle manufacturer and offered for commercial sale to the public in new condition - cars modified by either professional tuners or individuals are not eligible

2. They must be street-legal in their intended markets and capable of passing any tests or inspections required to be granted this status

3. They must have been built for retail sale to consumers for their personal use on public roads - no commercial or industrial vehicles are eligible The 962s that were sold as race cars were built ONLY to be sold as road going cars, not to be entered in competition.

The 962 meets the above listed criteria and thus qualifies as a production car. Also, my source read as follows: "Nearly 150 were sold and because of such a large customer programme, every component was available off the shelf direct from Porsche" Apparently it's your reading comprehension that's in need of some work. You owe me an apology and you need to revert back to my edits!

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please see my comments on the McLaren F1 page. Feel free to create an account! --LiamE 10:39, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Cricket

Hi LiamE, I've seen that many of your edits are cricket-related. There is a Cricket Project to improve the standard of cricketing material on Wikipedia (players, teams, history, tactics, everything!). You may consider joining it. Thanks -- DaGizza ^Chat 10:31, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Just a brief note to say Welcome on Board, jguk 19:21, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wasim

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You have put the POV tag on the Wasim Akram article. You have given the reason that there are POV statements and unverified claims. Can you please highlight/list which claims are unverified?. I have compared nealrly all statistics with cricinfo and those seem genuine to me. As far as other statements are concerned, sportsmen's bios are generally written by their fans and nearly all of them are full with praise for the person. Wasim is no ordinary cricketer. He has many records to his name. He also had that X factor which made people like Andre Agassi and David Beckham popular. (Yes compare them with Sampras and Zidane.) So, it is no surprise this article praises him.

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Indeed Wasim is a very special cricketer and its tricky to write a bio without superlatives but the article goes a bit too far. Compare the article to Donald Bradman's - who was a far better batsman than Wasim was a bowler - and you'll notice the language is less colourful but more encyclopedic. I hasten to add I did not put the POV tag on the article originally - I only put it back after it was removed without POV issues being addressed. POV isnt about verification, its about bias and the article as it stands is partisan. I'll point out some specifics on the page later on tonight. --LiamE 16:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dartford

What is the huge fuss at Talk:Dartford about anyway? bruce89 17:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

There is no fuss just an IP troll that keeps adding silly stuff and linking to random pages and then feigns disgust at being reverted. Unfortunately he keeps mentioning a couple of teachers of the grammar school there by name, saying HIGHLY libelous stuff etc etc. Just a FYI, virtually all the other IP edits over the last few days to that page are the same guy. Its a Tiscali IP range, he obviously hasnt got a fixed IP address. --LiamE 17:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Three tons in three matches

Hi LiamE, Thanks for that, I stand corrected! Last time I believe Bill Frindall! rob77

[edit] Carl Froch

hey liam, i really wouldnt know i was just basing off what i saw in the article, but if youre working on it go for it and good luck!! Mdawg728 00:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wasim Akram - apologies

Apologies for wrongly deleting the sentence about WA being the only man other than Murali to take 400 wkts in both Tests and ODIs. Pure error on my part. I've edited the reinstated sentence slightly, since as it stood it looked as though Murali held the ODI record, which he doesn't, but you're right: it's correct and notable, and I was wrong to take it out. Mea culpa. Loganberry (Talk) 03:53, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cybersquire - I appreciate the help

That is what I get for editing at 2:00 in the morning. Thank you for pointing it out and not being nasty about it -- Cybersquire 15:50, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Taylor

I saw Bob Taylor play numerous times and I think he is the safest and surest keeper I've seen. My dad thinks George Duckworth was probably the best ever based on reports about him, but he thinks Taylor was better than Evans, who he saw lots of times. If you read very old match reports, there's good reason to think Jack Blackham might have been the best.

Having said that, I am thinking of replacing Taylor with Adam Gilchrist who is getting very close as a keeper and is of course way ahead as a batsman. Gilchrist has impressive dismissal/match rating which is difficult to ignore.

I have always held the view that you should pick the best wicket keeper regardless of runs scored (or not), just as you should always pick your best bowlers. For example, I don't agree with England picking Giles just because he might score 25 ahead of Monty who might get Ponting out for 106 instead of 196! I certainly don't think they should pick Jones ahead of Read unless they are are sure is the better keeper (personally I don't think there's much between them).

It's an interesting discussion point but it has endless possibilities. There have been dozens of top-class keepers and we're really spoiled for choice. Best regards. --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 07:07, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] All rounder examples

Hello Liam. I was wondering if Reiffel was a better example of an all-rounder than Warne - he averaged 27 with bat, or does that push him over the line. Also Gillespie, Kumble, Agarkar have somewhat higher averages - around 18 I think....Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Cricket

how do i join? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thugchildz (talk • contribs) 02:07, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Second Ypres

LiamE, I just added couple of long-winded comments to the discussion page of the Second Battle of Ypres. I breathlessly (OK, hopefully) await your comments there. Esseh 08:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kent, Papermaking

Printers- Mackay of Chatham. Printed hardback reference books. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ClemRutter (talk • contribs) 19:46, 29 April 2007 (UTC).

Ahh okay - I think there was some in Sittingbourne too come to think of it... but I'm sure you'll agree papermaking > printing in the history of Kent. --LiamE 00:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mahendra Singh Dhoni - removing fanpov tag

Hi., i redid Dhoni's page wrt ODI career. I will finish rewording the test career shortly. since the pov material has been removed, i am taking-off the tag. In case you disagree, leave me a note on the talk page and i shall be glad to respond. Kalyan 18:22, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sutcliffe

Re [1] - was then the record for a losing side, now bettered by Lara and Flower. Tintin 13:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Thats one of those records players don't really look to "better" isn't it! I'll have a go at wording it in. --LiamE 13:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] KP

Hi,

Oh, right - I see. I was just trying to find a reference for you - have you one for the twenty-first to pass 900 then, rather than 21st on the list (which will obviously change in time as he or others pass 909). I was also wondering whether being the 21st to do something makes it particularly notable? don't know. - we could even have a 'Batsman with an ICC ranking of over 900 points' navibox!

–MDCollins (talk) 12:24, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed comments?

I'm not aware of having removed any comments from anyone's discussion page Pendragon39 02:52, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Update... history indicates the owner of that page removed your comments Pendragon39 03:15, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trescothick

Hi, In case you aren't watching it, I agree with you about the Gooch/Gower thing and have had another go - I'm sure you can do better if you want to try. –MDCollins (talk) 22:26, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I could do the same but i dont want to get into fight. I'll replace Mr. Khan to Imran or Imran Khan.Neutral Ray 20:47, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hutton

It was Arthur Shrewsbury, who I'm currently researching to expand his stub. --Jpeeling 14:25, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[2] after MCC took over responsibility for England's overseas tours at the start of the 20th century the captain was invariably an amateur ... until 1953 [1952]. I just picked one of the stubs from this page to expand. --Jpeeling 14:42, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Second most popular"

"Just silly". Isn't it sillier to repeat as truth (it says, "cricket is the second most popular…") a claim that has no authority? Thanks for your assessment of my contribution. --RobertG ♬ talk 14:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Misunderstanding: your original reversion specifically mentioned ref (and only ref) number 4. I honestly didn't notice that there were 8 other citations! I'm just looking at them to see whether any of them are more authoritative. I took umbrage initially, but I'm giving the umbrage back now. --RobertG ♬ talk 14:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I think I agree with you: it should definitely be more specific. I also think that the given citations do not substantiate the statement, but merely restate it. Best wishes, RobertG ♬ talk 17:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of comments, warnings

See also: Wikipedia:Don't restore removed comments Shortcuts: WP:UP#CMT WP:BLANKING Policy does not prohibit users from removing comments from their own talk pages, although archiving is preferred. The removal of a warning is taken as evidence that the warning has been read by the user. Deleted warnings can still be found in the page history. 24.247.215.55 (talk) 15:52, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

That only applies to users pages, not those of IP addresses. Please feel free to create an account so you don't get messages not intended for you. --LiamE (talk) 16:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you are mistaken. Clearly Wikipedia policy allows for user pages to be cleared, and there is no distinction between IP user pages and account pages.

24.247.215.55 (talk) 16:32, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

If you can show me the distinction I will retract myself, but I am unable to find it.24.247.215.55 (talk) 16:33, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Either A) the warning were for you and your reason for blanking was false, or B) the warning were not for you and it is a shared talk page. It would seem B is most likely. If it is A and you have noted the previous warning fine, they are not current and can be removed. The talk page for an IP address is simply not a user talk page. You have no ownership of it. Again, please create an account to avoid these issues. --LiamE (talk) 16:59, 24 December 2007 (UTC)