Talk:Leslie Feinberg

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[edit] Gender pronouns

Does Feinberg use these pronouns? If not, such usage is POV. Rick K 07:39, Jan 18, 2005 (UTC)

Here's a relevant quote (from 2003) which may answer the question to some extent.

PFLAG - Darn Those New Names and Pronouns

At one point I heard about some new pronouns and thought I would be terribly clever and politically correct using "ze" and "hir" in referring to a transgendered friend mid-transition -- until I was told "No!" Most transgendered people, and perhaps all transsexual persons, identify as one gender or the other; use the pronouns consistent with how they are presenting at the time, or as they prefer. When talking with Leslie Feinberg, noted transgender author, I asked Leslie which pronouns to use. Ze shrugged hir shoulders and said ze didn't care. While these have never been widely used, they ARE handy once in a while.

As I recall, in Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink or Blue., s/he often uses just that - s/he. But I don't have it to hand, so would have to verify that. --David Edgar 08:51, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Well, is enough a little visit to hir webpage to know which pronoun Leslie Feinberg likes to use. --Dia^ 22:19, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

While I think it is most accurate to refer to the person as the gender they appear, this article as it is written sounds terrible. I'll not make any changes (yet) but someone should try to come up with something better. If it really comes down to it, we could easily just use male pronouns as they are the closest thing to a nuetral pronoun we have for refering to a person. At very least, the fact that Feinberg identifies as gender neutral should be moved up the article so that it at least provides some reasoning for the format. - Kuzain 19:23, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yes

I have actually met Feinburg. From what I remember, s/she uses both neutral and male gendered pronouns to refer to hirself. S/he uses gender neutral pronouns (s/he, hir) in hir novels to identify transgender characters, while any men or women in hir novels are referred to using traditional gender pronouns.

However, I believe although the word is pronounced like "zee", it is written as "s/he". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rglong (talk • contribs) 03:27, 23 January 2007.