User talk:LedRush

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[edit] Bucknell pong

It's a variant of Beer pong, and therefore belongs, if anywhere, as a section in that article rather than on its own. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 19:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

• Per your request, I've changed the redirect to Beer pong (paddles). I continue to believe that the content belongs in a generic article on the game. Your content is readily available -- go to Bucknell Pong, then click on the link to Bucknell Pong that will appear at the top of the Beer pong (paddles) page, then click the History tab, then click the oldest date, and you'll see your original copy. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

• • Thanks for your note. The Dartmouth Pong article is cited by extensive references specifically to that game. Your article on Bucknell pong has only two references, neither of which specifically mentions Bucknell pong as a separate game. It sounds to me like a local variation of Beer pong (paddles). If you can find reliable independent sources that refer specifically to "Bucknell pong", let me know and I'll reconsider. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 20:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

• • • Well, I didn't delete -- I redirected. That's different, because your original content is still available to everyone. May I suggest, if you want to take this on, that you rewrite the Beer pong (paddles) article to cover both the Dartmouth and Bucknell versions (moving the principal content from both into the generic article), and then redirect the Dartmouth article to the Paddles article as well. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

1. I've moved the contents here for you.
2. If reliable sources show up, you can list the article at deletion review.-Wafulz (talk) 14:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

There were a few problems with your sources and the article:

• The article was 50% history of beer pong, and 50% unsourced rules. This shows that all of the sources you had dealt with beer pong in general, and none with Bucknell Pong. If your article was about the history of beer pong, then you'd have a stronger case.
• As far as I can see, none of your sources actually use the name "Bucknell Pong." I can't access prestonandsteve because of a firewall right now, but according to the discussion, it cites Wikipedia, which means it's not reliable.

Unfortunately, until the game becomes widespread, consistent, and well-sourced, by Wikipedia standards it's just a minor variation of a more common game.-Wafulz (talk) 17:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)