Talk:Ladonia (micronation)

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This page was previously nominated for deletion. Please see prior discussions before considering re-nomination: Keep and merge Nimis (artwork) into Ladonia (micronation), May 11, 2007, see discussion. Keep, June 13, 2005, see discussion.

Contents 1 Lars Vilks 2 Joseph Beuys, not Christo 3 How did he create a micronation? 4 Squat? 5 Fair use rationale for Image:Coat of arms of Ladonia.png 6 implodeladonia

[edit] Lars Vilks

It seems to me that this is really all about the art of an artist called Lars Vilks. The micronation stuff was just part of his artistic process. The reality is that on Wikipedia we currently have more micronation fans than we do art lovers, so the page was so written and so named. It seems odd to me that Mr Vilks himself has no page. His art has no page. This is like Bill Drummond having no page, his project The KLF being totally ignored, but his setting up a border post on the Isle of Jura during Waiting For The Rights of Mu being documented with a substantial article.

I would like to propose that this article feature a little more info on Mr Vilks and moved with a redirect to Lars Vilks. --kingboyk 04:27, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joseph Beuys, not Christo

According to the "official" Ladonia homepage, it was Joseph Beuys, not Christo, who bought the statue from Vilks in 1984. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.229.142.247 (talk) 21:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC).

Claude & Christo purchased Nimis after Joseph Beuys' death in 1986. Its listed on the official site's history page against that year. I don't know if this means that Beuys never completed the purchase ( according to the history Nimis was heavily vandalised), that Claude & Christo purchased it from Beuys' estate or if it was just sold again. --Rider kabuto 18:23, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How did he create a micronation?

The article says simply "In 1996 Vilks created the micronation of Ladonia in protest of the local council." What does that mean? What did he do to make such a nation recognized by the Swedish authorities? If it is not recognized, then the article must state this, and possibly that it is a fictitious nation. -Pgan002 22:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, "micronation" sounded to me like a small nation with some legal claim, but after checking the Micronation article, I realize that Ladonia is fictitious. Apparently, some micronations such as Sealand have some legal claims. I have clarified this in the article. -Pgan002 01:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

It's still referred to as a "micronation" with "territory" elsewhere in the article. This usage, to me, implies at least some legitimacy. Perhaps "supposed micronation," etc, would be better? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.35.105.182 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Squat?

How can this be a squat with nobody living there? I removed the category:squats tag merry (really) 12:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Coat of arms of Ladonia.png

Image:Coat of arms of Ladonia.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 07:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] implodeladonia

The site is down, does anyone know a mirror?--Ruben (talk) 23:10, 20 March 2008 (UTC)