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Danzig took over the lead of the hansa There is absolutly no source in history that Danzig ever took over the lead in the hansa, Danzig was the head of the division of hansa cities in (East-) Prussa and Livland. The last session of the old hansa (Hansetag) was in 1669 in Lübeck under its iniative. After that the hansa was represented solely by the three sister cities Bremen-Hamburg-Lübeck. I intend to change that in the article.--Kresspahl 20:41, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Status of a City-State 2 Pronunciation incorrect 3 Importance of the River Wakenitz 4 history 5 Notable Person: Christian Bartolf 6 Place name for WWII refugee camp 7 Why is Danish name relevant?

[edit] Status of a City-State

I think this article should mention that Lübeck was once one of the four Hanseatic City-states, and mention how it lost that status. I think it's because East Germany didn't accord it to the bombed-out city of bourgeois merchants who were to be thrown "on the scrap-heap of history," nor, with the change in its capacity as a merchant port, did West Germany upon unification. So what's its current status? It's not going to be a Hamburg, let alone a Frankfurt; is there any active movement to bring this about? --Sobolewski 05:25, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

For the status of Lübeck: Lübeck lost its status by the Greater Hamburg Act in 1937 (Gesetz über Groß-Hamburg und andere Gebietsbereinigungen) when it came to Schleswig-Holstein. The port is No. 4 in Germany and the largest German port at the Baltic.--Kresspahl 12:17, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I have just created a separate entry for the Free City of Lübeck. See Lübeck (state). At the moment, it contains a fair bit of text that is copied from this page, but I think a separate entry is necessary to avoid any confusion. — 52 Pickup 11:50, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation incorrect

The file linked from the article gives an incorrect demonstration of the pronunciation. In fact, the "c" in "Lübeck" has a different function from most other occurences of "ck" in German, where it would indicate a short preceding vowel. In Lübeck (as in Mecklenburg), the "c" belongs to the "e" (rather than the "k") and serves to lengthen it, meaning that the correct pronunciation is "lübeek" as spelled in pseudo-phonological German. This old-fashioned spelling often confuses speakers from outside northern Germany, and indeed "lübekk" is not rarely heard, but nevertheless, the former pronunciation is the historically correct one and the only one that is acceptable to most Lübeckians. Please change the sound file or at least explain the orthographic peculiarities. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.64.30.201 (talk) 19:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC). PS. The german article has IPA code for the correct pronunciation.

the pronounciation in the file is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.82.32.33 (talk) 19:52, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Importance of the River Wakenitz

I lived in Lübeck for 12 years and though the river Wakenitz is a well-known landmark, it's really of no significant importance. It's neither used for public and economical transport, nor has it any economical value, except for a couple of restaurants and some places people sometimes come for swiming. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.64.122.11 (talk) 18:48, 20 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] history

The Wik article on the Hanseatic League has an intersting comment on the city and Hitler that might belong in the hsitory section (which is too short in general). Kdammers

[edit] Notable Person: Christian Bartolf

When is a person notable? Only when he has already died, the mass media cover his existence, or when his country's wikipedia takes notice? This is too narrow and no argument to exclude him! Stop the vandalism! Chrbartolf

Here is the music right now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Christian_Bartolf --Kresspahl 19:04, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

And you come back to reason - who are you working for? Chrbartolf 19 June 2007

[edit] Place name for WWII refugee camp

I have a slight problem to find a place named "Herrenwiek" (at least pronunced like that). I got a bit of information about WWII refugee camps "in Herrenwiek and in Lübeck", I searched for it with Answers.com and got Spell Check suggestion Lübeck-Herrenwyk, which linked to now-deleted wikipedia article which said that "Herrenwyk is a part of Lübeck dominated by industrial facilities". Now I'm here to ask if there is such part of Lübeck and could it be what I'm looking for - I suspect one camp in that part of the city ? ---- Xil/talk 16:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

de:Herrenwyk is part of Lübeck between Lübeck and Travemünde on the banks of river Trave. I suppose, you are searching for the camp "Am Stau". It is very close to the Herrentunnel.--Kresspahl 07:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks ---- Xil/talk 21:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why is Danish name relevant?

Why is the Danish name for the city (Lybæk) included at the top of the article? The city has never been part of Denmark and does not have a Danish minority population, and this is the English language wikipedia. I suggest removing it.--Barend (talk) 10:37, 10 April 2008 (UTC)