Talk:Krystyna Skarbek

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Former version: Bucharest, Hungary. Was it Bucharest or Budapest? --Halibutt 07:00, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Good question since the only Bucharest you hear of, and probably the only one suited as a spy's base, is in Romania. But the next 'graph does say "Hungary" as well, so change to

Budapest, Hungary

as most likely case, pending certainty. --Jerzy 23:37, 2004 Jan 13 (UTC)

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Text, left intact in 'graph 3, is

She was arrested twice but on both occasions she managed to get away.

If she escaped by stealth, or by seducing and/or murdering her guards, or was rescued by the Resistance while being moved for interrogation (as happened in the case of Jean Moulin), that is worth saying unambiguously; if she merely was released by seeming innocent, that too should be said. --Jerzy 23:37, 2004 Jan 13 (UTC)

Contents 1 krystyna skarbek 2 Picture 3 From my talk page: 4 Birthplace 5 Countess 6 WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

[edit] krystyna skarbek

reading about the women the thought she might be a double agent means so many differant things but the truth will always be hidden so how do we find the truth and what about her life befor the war

Geee... but what exactly do you mean? Wiki is not about finding the truth, it's about reporting the facts. That's not the same... Halibutt 22:04, 18 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

What was wrong with the picture and why was it removed? [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 21:38, Sep 22, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] From my talk page:

i have recently completed writing the manuscript for what I hope will be the definitive biography of Krystyna. She was definitely not a double-agent. Her accuser was a Polish officer of the Szosty Oddzial (Sixth Bureau) who could not stand to have someone as charismatic as Krystyna on his patch (Cairo). None of the rumours he spread about her were ever confirmed and she was eventually re-instated as an SOE operative.

By the way, Krystyna was NOT born in 1915, but earlier, and not in Mlodzieszyn. Her birth and baptismal certificates have been located in Poland. When I find a publisher for my manuscript I will correct what has been written about her in Wikipedia (which I fully support). Ron Nowicki

[edit] Birthplace

Could anyone confirm her birthplace? Currently the place mentioned in the article does not seem Polish at all. Was it Młodzieszyn? Halibutt 17:25, Jan 27, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Countess

The Krystyna Skarbek line of the Skarbek family doesn't have an aristocratic title. They wasn't counts, just szlachta (nobility), but used the title only for glamour and money. by J.S. Dunin-Borkowski, Almanach błękitny, Lwów 1909. Archiwum Główne Akt Dawnych, Heroldia. Kowalmistrz 16:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

That would seem to make Krystyna Skarbek's achievements all that more remarkable.

Why didn't her branch of the Skarbeks have rights to the title?

logologist|Talk 16:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think she didn't know that ;) I don't know why the Skarbeks from Krystyna's line do not have the title. My friend found that info in a book about Polish heraldy, some Polish historians made a research in archives. We can read about it in some articles, like in Polityka (current issue ;)). Kowalmistrz 10:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC) Omajgot, przeciez jestes Polakiem. Sorry. W Polityce jest fajny art. o niej. Pozdrawiam w j. ojczystym :] Kowalmistrz 10:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Dziękuję za wiadomości! I think I read somewhere that a member of one of the Skarbek branches (apparently not Krystyna Skarbek's) in the 19th century requested, and obtained from the Austrian court, confirmation of the title for his branch.

In fact, it's my understanding that all the aristocratic titles sported by Polish-Lithuanian magnates and grandees — as opposed to ordinary patents of nobility — were bestowed by foreign courts. logologist|Talk 05:39, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 18:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)