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Contents 1 Moved the page 2 Rusty Nails 3 Pork products 4 Sex Couldrin 5 Jewish atheist? 6 Krusty-Brand 7 His name 8 His name is spelled "Krusty the Clown" on the show 9 Article Title 10 Is Krustilu a pun? 11 Shouldn't be Sir Krusty 12 Self-hating Jew 13 Requested move 13.1 Survey 14 Full name 15 Mirai no Krusty 16 GA review

[edit] Moved the page

I moved this page from Krusty the Klown; the last word of his stage name is not spelled with a K. This can be seen in numerous episodes. Andrewlevine 20:22, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I'm not certain, but I think that the name of the Tracy Ullman short (which was his first appearance) was spelled "Klown". I'm not sure how much it's been used since then, though. --Nick R 22:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

In the shorts it was "Clown" but that doesn't count because he's been Krusty the Klown since the early sixties http://www.homerize.com/framegrabs.php?img=1F22/fg_228.jpg 58.104.20.47 01:52, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Originally, it was "Krusty the Klown", then the writers changed it to "Krusty the Clown" in the later seasons.

I'm going to throw my voice steadily behind "Krusty the Clown," rather than "Klown." I really can't find a source for Klown, and the link above is quite dead. At the very least, I'm going to change references to "Krusty's Klown Kollege" to "Krusty's Clown College," as that is clearly the spelling used in the episode, which I am watching as I type this.

In "Today, I am a Clown", Krusty says his full name is Herschel Pinkes Remochel Krustofski. Check the spelling on that.- B-101 23:06, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Rusty Nails

66.167.252.174 03:47, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC): The commentary track for Krusty Gets Busted mentions only Rusty Nails as the inspiration for Krusty. There's an online newspaper article confirming this (http://www.portlandtribune.com/archview.cgi?id=22896) as well as numerous other fan sites.

Why does Sideshow Mel redirect to this page?? - Sajt 02:00, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Pork products

Assuming Krusty keeps kosher, isn't it unlikely that his brand of pork products caused his heart attack?

It's implied that Krusty doesn't keep kosher.

  Waitress: And for you, sir?
  Rabbi K:  Ah, let's see. I want a nice sandwich. But the Joey Bishop,
            eh, too fatty. the Jackie Mason? I dunno, sauerkraut makes me
            gas.  Bruce Willis?  I don't even like his work! What is this?
            Krusty the Klown?
  Waitress: That's ham, sausage, and bacon, with a smidge of mayo.
  Rabbi K:  What!?
  Waitress: On white bread.
  --8f05, "Like Father, Like Clown" RE-DIRECT

--Wasabe3543 05:20, 8 September 2005 (UTC) maybe they should be a re-direct to herschel penkus yeruchan krustofski.

That's not implied. It is possible though. TJ Spyke 03:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sex Couldrin

That was Wiggem who said the Sex Couldrin line, with the revrends wife spelling sex and Children

No it wasnt whoever you are.Davie4264 21:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish atheist?

This article is listed both in "Jewish comedy" and "Fictional atheists". Myself I've always believed that being a Jew was about religion, and, although born by Jewish parents, an atheist person should not be labelled by that religion. Just like I, being the grandchild of a member of some charismatic congregation, am an atheist.--84.48.93.232 22:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

The beginning of the Jew article states that it is an "ethno-religious" group. I'm honestly quite surprised that you find being a Jew and an atheist as a contradiction. Considering oneself Jewish solely as a cultural or ethnic identity is very common in the U.S. and the Western world in general, and this extends to atheists. Woody Allen would be a good example. Here's a whole article: Atheist Jew.

In addition to that, it's The Simpsons. I wouldn't make a fuss over any apparent contradiction you see. --Palpatine 03:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree we shouldn't make a lot of fuss over an apparent contradiction - which makes me wonder if we should include such a categorization. That he's not Jewish, I think no one could make a case for. That he's not an atheist, I think some could. --Othersider 09:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Krusty-Brand

What about Krusty-Brand Duck sausage pizza?

[edit] His name

all these idiots call him Krustofksy, but it's spelt Krustofski. We need to change that name everywhere we can.

[edit] His name is spelled "Krusty the Clown" on the show

His name is Krusty the Clown and it should be spelled that way in the article. If they used "Klown" at some point early on in the shorts, that should have no bearing on how we spell Krusty's name now. Otherwise, we would have to accept that the characters are supposed to look like they originally did as well. Does anyone think that this should be the image on the Homer Simpson article? I'm going to make the change. Croctotheface 21:31, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

In Lisa's Sax, Bart watches 'the Krusty the Klown Story.' 12.218.145.112 23:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

"Clown" is how his name is usually spelled. It's spelled that way on the official site (click through the flash). One or two instances of "Klown" doesn't make it correct. Croctotheface 03:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

It's not "one of two instances", they have used "Klown" many times. Just saying. TJ Spyke 03:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

On Behind the Laughter, his name is spelled "Krusty the Klown". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.93.82 (talk • contribs) Croctotheface 02:50, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

If you say so. The Simpsons website has "clown" and I can't think of an example from the show where they spelled it with a K. Croctotheface 02:50, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Title

I think the article title should be changed from "Krusty" to "Krusty the Clown".

[edit] Is Krustilu a pun?

Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball named Desilu studios. Krustylu is a reference to this but it's more correct to call this an allusion, than a pun.

[edit] Shouldn't be Sir Krusty

In the British honours system, a knighted person is only called Sir Whatever if a citizen of the commonwealth. Not being a subject of the Queen, Krusty is not entitled to use that style. --Riido 07:17, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

...and even still, he doesn't use the title in the show, and he was interrupted in the middle of the ceremony. I'm with not including the "sir". Croctotheface 07:20, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Self-hating Jew

I removed the "citation needed" after the sentence: "even openly self-identified as a "self-hating Jew"" since I don't see why that would need a citation when nothing else has one...? DeanHarding 05:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

This article has been renamed from Krusty to Krusty the Clown as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 06:45, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Full name

Do we have a source for the spelling of Krusty's middle names? (For example, is it Shmoikel or Schmoikel? Or something else entirely?) Also, is the Hebrew text in the lead really necessary? Zagalejo^^^ 19:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll start looking for a source on his name. As for the Hebrew text, no it's not necessary, I just forgot to remove it. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 21:23, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

The source is Today I Am a Clown where he mentions his full name himself. Imho that should be enough, it being a primary source. And if you cannot find a source on the spelling, I'd say the default or more common spelling of the names should be used. --SoWhy ^Talk 16:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mirai no Krusty

There should be some mention of future-Krusty, and how he looks the same each time he appears... a grotesquely wrinkled guy in a wheelchair with a blanket over his legs (possibly a reference to somebody famous?). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 (talk) 23:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

1. Well written: Marginal pass. The prose seems clear and easy to understand. I was never confused in the body text. The lead section, however, still needs a bit of work. For example, nothing is mentioned about reception. You should add that ASAP.
2. Factually accurate: Pass. Everything is very well referenced.
3. Broad in coverage: Huge pass.
4. Neutral: Pass. I couldn't find any serious bias at all.
5. Stable: Pass. It's as stable as any other Simpsons article.
6. Images: Pass, but I'm a little concerned about the use of two in the "Role in the series" section. That seems a little much - one would be sufficient, so I'll take it down soon.

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Teh Rote (talk) 01:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)