Talk:Kona coffee
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Food and drink, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of food and drink articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. | ||||||||
| Start | This article has been rated as Start-class on the quality scale. | ||||||||
| ??? | This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale. |
||||||||
|
|||||||||
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Hawaiʻi, a WikiProject related to the U.S. state of Hawaiʻi. Please participate by editing the article Kona coffee, or visit the project page for more details. | |
| Start | This article has been rated as Start-Class on the Project's quality scale. (If you rated the article please give a brief summary at comments to explain the ratings.) |
|
 |
This article requires expansion. Please help expand the section or topic described in the comments or talk page. | |
Contents |
[edit] Removing Hawaii's Top Coffee Growers section
Currently it lists two growers who may have some degree of notability, but makes no claim to these being top coffee growers in Hawaii. I wouldn't mind seeing a more general section on coffee growers in Hawaii (there certainly are enough unique traits of the Hawaiian coffee industry to warrant one), however, as it is, this section offers little to the article but to justify the reference links at the bottom. If I have time, I might start work on this section. In the meantime, I'm interested in any comments/objections anyone might have. ScottW 22:34, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV
The article has good info but reads somewhat like an industry ad. Sentences like "due to the industry's standard and reputation of fine quality products" smack of weasel words. Adding NPOV template until I or someone else can fix it up. vpoko 22:47 07 August 2006
reliable sources tell me that the amount of coffee per tree is considerably more than 20 pounds - sometimes up to 40 pounds.Bobnessownage 07:52, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
The coffee trees in the Kona region start bearing fruit at age 2 or 3 (depending on altitude and fertilization). They can become up to 150 years old. Regular annual pruning (Kona style) will leave 2 to 3 bearing branches, while the total branch removal every third year (Beaumont Fukunaga method) will leave 4 to 5 branches for 3 years, with one non-, one less, one heavy fruit bearing year. So both numbers are correct: The average healthy well cared for coffee tree pruned in 'Kona style' bears approx. 20 pounds of roasted coffee annually on a consistent base. Pruned with the 'Beaumont Fukunaga' method it may go up to 40 pounds in the third year. Fluctuations in the harvested amounts caused by weather shifts occur as well. Normally two good harvests are followed by a low harvest. The amount of 20 pounds of roasted coffee has to be multiplied by 7 to understand the 140 pounds of coffee cherry the tree actually has to produce. 'Tree' is a misnomer for the coffea arabica plant as it is actually classified as a shrub. 3:01, 27 January 2008
[edit] YEAH but what does it TASTE LIKE?
Someone please provide some words. 198.49.180.40 17:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- The specific flavor qualities associated with this coffee do need to be described! Where are the editors who began this article and why have they not addressed this comment, left in December of last year? Badagnani 03:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV in "Counterfeit" section
This section reads like some sort of consumer guide to Kona coffee purchases. It is unencyclopedic in its style, and is certainly of questionable neutrality. I suggest removal or else major reworking of this section to ensure a neutral point of view and more encyclopedic/consistent style.
Quote of section below:
"Protecting its food origins is a fairly new concept in the USA and the government is lying low in enforcements of existing spotty laws. As long as there is no food contamination, blatant mislabeling, or obvious fraud happening, the consumer has to carefully check the source of the coffee him/herself. Various clues can help to verify the origin: Is there a website on the label? Do they have a contact phone number? Are they based in Kona, Hawaii? If it is a local farm, you can most likely speak to the owners directly or even visit the farm yourself. If it is from a big roaster, they most likely have bought Hawaii State certified coffee from a large processor or farm in Kona. Or from a coffee broker, who would also only buy state certified Kona coffee. Both can give you a run-down of the procedure and even show you copies of the paper works & seals of Kona bags. Buying fake Kona coffee at a roadside stand in Hawaii may happen of course. But Kona is a very small community with two roads only and the other hardworking local coffee farmers would quickly put an end to it. When to be suspicious and rather not buy: Be careful when you see 1) 100% Kona coffee with a SALE sign attached 2) 100% Kona coffee for less than $15 per pound. 3) Kona coffee without the 100% in front of it. 4) Kona coffee with artificial flavors, eg vanilla, hazelnut, raspberry, because they cover the unique and expensive flavor of Kona coffee for a reason. 5) 5 lb bag 'deals' from obscure roasters on Ebay 6) Local gas stations suddenly serving Kona coffee by the cup for a buck. 7) Hawaiian hotels or restaurants rarely serve 100% Kona - nearly all of them say "Kona" on the menu, but serve cheap and flavored blends. Inquire before ordering. 8) When you search a roasters address from their label on Google Earth, but you only find e.g. a golf course in Florida. 9) Kona roast, Kona blend, Kona style are never 100% Kona coffees. Cute label or not."
Thurston Weatherton (talk) 05:00, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
- Section removed for reasons above. Beechhouse (talk) 16:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
