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Kolokol means bell in Russian. It is unclear wether this information would be of any interest to people trying to find out more about the chemical agent called Kolokol-1.

I think that yes, that it will be interesting, so I will change the article.--Oleg Str 10:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Source for Fyodorov paragraph?

The article says:

According to Lev Fyodorov, a former Soviet chemical weapons scientist who now heads the independent Council for Chemical Security in Moscow, the gas was originally manufactured in a secret KGB laboratory in Leningrad during the 1970s, and that in the subsequent decade methods of dispersing it were tested on the Moscow public without their knowledge. Furthermore, Fyodorov claimed that leaders of the failed 20 August 1991 Communist coup intended to use the agent to recover members of the Russian parliament.

Perhaps the source is linked below; if so, could it be referenced within the paragraph? Eric 19:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

The source can be found here. It is referenced below, but I'll also add it to the article proper in the morning. My wife is yelling at me to come to bed right now. – Clockwork Soul 06:15, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I cleaned up the article a bit, and added the citations. The articles I cited are available on Lexis-Nexis, but if you want the text I would happily email them to you. – Clockwork Soul 15:22, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Found the actual source. It's an article in Moscow's Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper of Oct 28, 2002, titled "Hostage Dealths Result from Special Forces Blunder?" Interviewed by the newspaper, Fyodorov said: "It was an incapacitating agent, a gas that temporarily disables the human body... A secret Institute for Very Pure Substances [translated literally] was created in Leningrad in the ealy 1970s. Peptides were developed there such that could affect human brain. It is in there where the incapacitating agent was long kept... It took a long time to learn how to use that weapon. They had to develop a means to release the gas in the atmosphere and disseminate it there uniformly... First [atmospheric release] experiments began in Moscow in the 1980s. Harmless bacteria were released in the Moscow subway [the Metro] through ventilation shafts. Later the experiments moved to Novosibirsk where a subway system was built to this end... It looks like it was the first time the incapacitatnt was used in the theater. In 1991, during the coup d'etat, an operation like that went abortive. Back then they intended to release it into the White House [Russian Parliament Building]."--129.128.45.126 01:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] opiate type

I find it hard to believe that the exact nature of the opiate used is not known. 3 methyl fentanyl would certainly fit the bill. Ohmefentanyl is even stronger, but would that beta hydroxy group make it more difficult to make it into aerosol form? I found that para-fluoro ohmefentanyl is even stronger so maybe para fluoro 3 methyl fentanyl? There are other classes of opiate that have the same range of potency but the fentanyls would be the easiest to produce in bulk. Also, does anyone know how long the people were out cold for? Certain fentanyls have very short or very long 1/2 lives. Carfentanil is supposed to be x10000 morphine but has a 1/2 life that is VERY short. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.104.26.110 (talk) 19:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC).