User talk:Kitchawan

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Y	Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): Problems with autoblocks fixed now :). Request handled by: Martinp23 22:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Diane von Fuerstenberg 2 Nam Phuong 3 Reformatted your requested move of Nam Phuong 4 Butler article 5 August 2007 6 Pat Nixon 7 Madame Nhu and "collaborated" 8 Brooke Astor photograph 9 October 2007 10 Heather Mills 11 Re: Help Desk 12 Bhutto cause of death 13 AfD nomination of Assassination of Benazir Bhutto 14 Clay Aiken Article

[edit] Diane von Fuerstenberg

Egon's marriage with Diane was not approved and her children are not dynastic members of the princely house. As such, they are not styled Serene Highness and Alexandre is not in line to become head of the princely house. The House of Fürstenberg has no written house laws. All matters concerning dynastic unions are at the whim of the head of the house. Charles 18:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Until you provide a source for that assertion, with all due respect, it is merely POV.67.142.130.31 14:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nam Phuong

I fixed the redirect problem with the Nam Phuong article. The problem wasn't with the Nguyen Thi Huu Lan page itself (with proper diacritics). It's just you redirected "nam phuong" to "nguyen thi huu lan" (with no diacritics), whereas the proper page has diacritics. It's fine now I think :)Annamite tonkinese 05:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for doing that.67.142.130.31 14:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reformatted your requested move of Nam Phuong

Hello Kitchawan. I'm a novice at WP:RM but I noticed your Nam Phuong request had some extra brackets so I tried to fix it. Please take a look at Wp:rm#July_12.2C_2007 to see if your move request now looks right. Thanks, EdJohnston 03:06, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Butler article

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule on Robert Olen Butler. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. RedSpruce 16:48, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] August 2007

Please stop. If you continue to add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Robert Olen Butler, you will be blocked from editing. Ds.mt 17:01, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I have added nothing promotional to the Butler article in any fashion, but am merely adding facts with proper citations. If you feel that any of these is in some way "promotional", please explain fully and succinctly.Kitchawan 17:11, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pat Nixon

Hi there. This is what I've found about Pat Nixon's name:

• http://law.enotes.com/presidential-biography/nixon-administrations/family-life - Says she legally changed her name: "Born Thelma Catherine Ryan in 1912, Pat (who legally changed her name in 1930)..."
• http://www.firstladies.org/curriculum/educational-biography.aspx?biography=38 - From the National First Ladies Library; says she changed her name: "Eventually, she changed her name to Patricia upon the death of her father in 1930."
• page 34 of the book Pat Nixon: The Untold Story by Julie Nixon Eisenhower says she changed her name
• http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Nixon - a branch of WIkipedia says she "legally changed her name to Patricia"
• http://books.google.com/books?id=Eo0xcLkycIwC&pg=PA217&lpg=PA217&dq=pat+nixon+legally+changed+her+name&source=web&ots=DulpeC9xnr&sig=DYN4vh4Yb95-EhpD8QBrw64hzdg#PPA8,M1 - says she legally changed her name to "Patricia"
• she enrolled in schools (including USC) under the name "Patricia"
• it's on her tombstone.

After reading these, I have come to the conclusion that she legally changed her name to Patricia. There are many more cites that state her name was changed. Best, Happyme22 20:09, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello again. I removed the information, because it seemed to be trivia, but will allow to add it back in for you seem to really want it. Anyway, you might want to take a look at WP:LEAD, and cite that she was a heavy smoker was well. Plus, "the besottled Nixon" is POV and df. needs a cite. Although your help with reomving trivia and naming conventions was good, you need cites for some stuff, and stay away from POV. Thanks. Happyme22 23:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not saying that your not helping the article; you have. But the thing about her being a heavy smoker needs a cite. Happyme22 23:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I've been copyediting what you wrote, as some of it might not be completely encyclopedic. A quote about Pat Nixon by her friend which states: "a good example to the women of this country, if they're not part of those Women's Liberation groups," takes a shot at the women's liberation groups and women in general. Now I am a man; it's not me taking a shot, it's Pat Nixon's friend but that part of the quote is not encyclopedic nor does that part pertain to Pat Nixon (and the article is about Pat Nixon). In case you didn't know, not everything you write on the page will stay in the exact form you authored it in, as some of it is POV a lot of it needs a copyedit. Plus, if she didn't dress well, or if it didn't seem that she dressed well, why is there an entire section devoted to her fashions which says, "Many fashion observers concluded that Pat Nixon had little impact on the wardrobes of American women and did not greatly advance the cause of American fashion." - !?!? I'm not trying to get into a fight with you, although I expect a heated response, but it's time we settle our differences: you, that not everything you write stay and that I have just as much right to alter your version as you do mine, and me, that I should think twice before changing and about your original intent. I would like to thank you, however, for giving me the definition of a personal shopper; now it makes sense. Thanks. Happyme22 (talk) 22:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

As you seem to know more about this than I, just go ahead and put it back. Happyme22 (talk) 22:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Fashion: Oh boy do I remember the Nancy Reagan fashion issues; they were all over. And I do remember it back in the early '70s with Mrs. Nixon. I do not remember all the negative coverage, however. Perhaps we could try to find some good reviews of her fashion and incorporate those as well to balance out the text, but still have the general feel that she didn't dress exceptionally well. Happyme22 (talk) 22:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

It's a good plan, and if you need assistance just let me know. Thanks, Happyme22 (talk) 23:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Madame Nhu and "collaborated"

Kintetsubuffalo, I have deleted the word "collaborated" again from the Madame Nhu article, re her paternal grandfather. Without detail or further explanation, "collaborated" is a POV term per Wiki definitions. If you believe strongly that her paternal grandfather was a "collaborator" then you will have to explain this more fully and provide a citation. To call him a collaborator adds a criminal implication, given the popular usage of the term since World War II.Kitchawan 17:45, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

You've got the wrong guy, wasn't me-you're not reading the edit histories closely enough. Chris 18:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brooke Astor photograph

Haven't a frickin clue why do you think I raised the issue on the article talk page? See Talk:Brooke Astor.Genisock2 16:06, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] October 2007

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, which wasn't included with your recent edit to Giada De Laurentiis. Thank you. MBK004 18:48, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Heather Mills

Hi - do you have a reliable source for her parents' names? If so, please confirm and add the source. Tvoz |talk 18:23, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Help Desk

Just to let you know, I've replied to your question on the help desk. I think WP:BLACKLIST should provide information about the problem you're having, but I've included more details at the HD. Happy editing! Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bhutto cause of death

Such details as exact cause of death are not very important. What is important is that the assassin somehow got her and the details belong on the separate assassination page.--Cokeabout (talk) 17:55, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

It is important in terms of today's news, but a few weeks from now, it will no longer have so much ink spilled about it (because it does not really matter in the long run and because the news is supposed to find something to blab on about for hours today).--Cokeabout (talk) 18:22, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Even a free-flowing encyclopedia should ask itself: will anyone care about this factual detail a month from now? Again, please take it to the Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and examine it in detail there. If consensus ever emerges there about what really happened, then maybe we should state it that way in her biography.--Cokeabout (talk) 18:38, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Assassination of Benazir Bhutto

An article that you have been involved in editing, Assassination of Benazir Bhutto, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Assassination of Benazir Bhutto. Thank you. --BJBot (talk) 22:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clay Aiken Article

Apart from whether this should be mentioned in the article (and please take a look at Talk:Clay Aiken for a discussion I'm starting about that), why did you put in a reference to britishcampaignfurniture.com???? -- ArglebargleIV (talk) 14:59, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I didn't put in any such reference.Kitchawan (talk) 01:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)