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Why does this article end in 1815? john 04:54, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Prussia lasted until 1933 2 Kingdom of Prussia and Prussia 3 FA class on Portuguese wiki 4 Languages? 5 Map 6 German or Prussian? 7 Double page

[edit] Prussia lasted until 1933

It was no kingdom after 1918, but it was the largest state in Germany.

[edit] Kingdom of Prussia and Prussia

Why do this article and Prussia act as though they aren't aware of each other's existence? This should probably be merged, or turned into a brief article about the political unit. john k 22:21, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

One solution is to make Prussia a disambiguation page. Space Cadet 01:20, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I don't think Prussia should be a disambiguation page. What's wrong with the current Prussia article? It's certainly far better than this article. Are you suggesting that we split the contents of Prussia between the disambiguation article, Kingdom of Prussia and something like Free State of Prussia? I would oppose this. To me, it makes more sense to just merge Kingdom of Prussia into Prussia and save any useful stuff from the former. john k 05:15, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I would second this last opinion. Let's canibalize the "Kingdom of Prussia" article in favour of "Prussia"!Pelagus 17:31, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. "Prussia" means many different things throughout Wikipedia (which can easily be seen by seeing what links to the article):

• "Borussia", the land (currently without an article, I believe) of the Old/Baltic Prussian people
• the "Borussian" lands of the Teutonic Knights (the Monastic State of the Teutonic Knights)
• Ducal Prussia and Royal Prussia
• Brandenburg-Prussia
• the Kingdom of Prussia

• the Free State of Prussia (currently a redirect)

I am of the opinion that Prussia should be a significantly shortened semi-disambiguation page (as it was before this edit) briefly describing the historical evolution of "Prussia", while detail should go into the relevant articles. I think that the Prussia article was too detailed even before the recent changes to it. Another suggestion would be to have Prussia as a disambiguation page, have History of Prussia (currently a redirect) be a relatively short summary page (shorter than History of England), and then have the aforementioned individual articles describing Prussia's history at specific time periods in a "History of Prussia" series. Olessi 18:43, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Prussia, as part of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation and Prussia as a German kingdom are surely of political differences, but always of German identity! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.140.82.198 (talk) 19:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC).

I agree. the two articles should be merged into "The Kingdom of Prussia" because the subject is the same. Their is no point of having two articles that contain the same information on the same subject.--Martin8768 14:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

In WikiProject Former Countries, we're trying to make articles both for long-lived countries that changed rank, whilst essentially being the same country (eg Duchy of Prussia → Kingdom of Prussia → Free State of Prussia etc) and for each of these ranks. Prussia should, imho, be a summary page that gives a brief overview of how Prussia evolved from the Old Prussians to the Free State, with {{main}} links to each of the rank articles (eg Duchy of Prussia). Certainly I believe quite strongly that we shouldn't remove any of those articles.

So I'm roughly agreeing with Olessi :o) — OwenBlacker 12:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FA class on Portuguese wiki

The Portuguese version of this entry has received FA-status. Given my non-knowledge of Portuguese, the content of this article does not look too different to this one, except that the English version does not have any references. If enough references are given (and the page is cleaned up a bit), maybe we could have FA too. - 52 Pickup 19:08, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Languages?

Just curious... What languages were spoken in Prussia over the years? Surely a variety. But what was/were the language(s) of state? How were various languages/dialects consolidated into German? Any expertise here would be a welcome addition. Smilo Don (talk) 17:09, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

• german was the official language in prussia. in older time the high nobility speaks french. in east prussia there where a minority of masurian people and some lithuanians, some polish people also. but the most of the east-prussians spoke a german dialect. in other parts of prussia the people spoke other german dialects, some spoke low german and so on. in the north (schleswig-holstein) there were big minorities of danish and friesian people, but only german was an official language. germany had many dialects. if you look for old office-letters they are writen in german or latin, it depends of the time.

Enkidu78

[edit] Map

I think it would be a good idea to puts some labels on the map, naming the Baltic Sea and some surrounding countries. I know, of course, where Prussia was, but when I first saw the map, I though I was looking at a South-up view of the Mediterranean Sea. It took me about ten seconds to figure out where I was. For someone reading the article who doesn't even know where Prussia was to begin with, I would think it could be quite befuddlesome. Whind Soull (talk) 00:14, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] German or Prussian?

In 1876, would it have been more common to refer to Königsberg as a German city or a Prussian city? I realize it was technically both, but we're trying to decide how to properly refer to the city over in the Emma Goldman article. One editor wants to refer to it as "the Prussian capital of Königsberg" while another perfers just "Königsberg, Germany". Which is the better choice? Please reply here. Thanks! Kaldari (talk) 16:54, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Double page

Hi, I think we have a double article here, on one hand, we have an article on Prussia, and on the other hand an article on Kingdom of Prussia. I think these two can be combined. Robin.lemstra (talk) 13:38, 12 April 2008 (UTC)