Talk:Kinder Scout
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[edit] Water over the edge?
Can anyone provide a source for this translation of Kinder Scout as meaning Water over the edge in Norse? I couldnt find this in a breif search of online Norse dictionaries. Also iI found this quote from
- "This obscure hill-name appears to be of pre-English origin, but the material is not adequatefor any certain etymology. It is the name of the highest hill in the Peak District."
K.Cameron, "The Place-Names of Derbyshire", 1959, p115 quoted in [1] Billlion 17:34, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I orginally put that it, I rembered reading it in a OS guide-book. I found this on't'web: [2]. Grinner 14:21, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Access Land
The principal effects of the Kinder Trespass well pre-date Right to Roam, surely - The fact that a large area of the 'Dark Peak' was declared (many years ago) as 'Open Country' was the main effect. The CRoW bill was more a consequence of continuing access problems in upland areas like the Arans etc... Linuxlad 20:28, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I see what you're saying, but I think it is fair to regard the "right to roam" enshrined in the CRoW act as the culmination of the campaign that began with the Kinder trespass.Grinner 09:48, Jan 26, 2005 (UTC)
What it needs is a sentence _before_ the CRoW reference, to the earlier land designated 'open country' in the High Peak (many years pre-CRoW,and indeed dating from the Park's inception IIRC). (now done)
see also http://www.peakdistrict.org/crow/map.htm for the land so designated before and after 9/04
This issue came up over the Dartmoor article where the guy there claimed that that was the first English National Park to have 'open access' land, when it clearly wasn't. Linuxlad 14:33, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Worth noting perhaps, that Tom Stephenson thought the Kinder Mass Trespass had done very little towards getting improved access IIRC Bob aka Linuxlad 23:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kinder Low - burial site?
I have a book here called The King's England. Written in 1937, it was intended to be a multi-part "Domesday book", and covers most villages in the UK. I have the Derbyshire book. Under the entry for Hayfield, it says something a little strange: "... Kinderscount, the great tableland wild and savage in rock and ravine.... culminating in the height of Kinder Low, where unknown men are sleeping in a mound 2088 feet above the sea."
I'm not sure if this is just flowery language, or whether he's saying there's a burial site there. What do you think? 86.135.161.239 (talk) 18:17, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Apparently there is a barrow up there: http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=12172 --VinceBowdren (talk) 22:29, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- See also http://www.magic.gov.uk/rsm/23271.pdf Dave.Dunford (talk) 08:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
