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[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVI (April 2008)

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[edit] The Board of Oblivion BBS and David D Stanton

The removal of this page I find to be a situation where wiki policy seems to be elitist and leads to censorship of just the kind of information which wiki was made for. The little person's history, the things of interest which big media does not pick up. I find this removal very disappointing and disheartening for a person who had hopes of wiki being a site for an archive of data filtered for abuse yes but not censored do to some stringent policy which leaves out the little people. Thank you. Armisis (talk) 14:24, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm very sorry that I've had to delete two honestly-written articles, but Wikipedia is, in fact, an encyclopaedia of notable people, places and events. That does mean that people and websites who have not gained mention by some sort of quotable source do not rate a separate article. I don't think this counts as censorship but I do recognise that it's disappointing for you. There may be other wikis that would be more suitable for articles of this type: I'm not certain of this, but the wiki software is used in many places other than Wikipedia. Please don't be disheartened: why not add some sourced material to an article that already exists, or try and write a new article on a subject that you have some good sources for? Get back to me if you need help, I'll be glad to do so. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 16:20, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll see if I can find a good home for this data, I just wish that the idea of notable wasn't as strict, it feels elitist. Thanks 90.212.254.200 (talk) 19:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Formal Langausge (disambiguity)

Thanks for your message. IMHO the suggestion that the term Formal Language has different meanings in the fields of logic, mathematical logic, mathematics, computer science, linguistics and philosophy is not proven (although this does not entail that it is not true, of course). It therefore seem unlikey that seperate articles will be forthcoming and therfore there is no need for the diambiguity page I created in anticipation. I have therefore deleted it.--Philogo 00:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC) PS I blanked the page: not sure how to delete. Feel free if you know how.--Philogo 00:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks: I'm at work now so can't log in and edit as an admin, but will do so tonight and delete the page if it hasn't been attended to by another admin before then. best wishes, Kim Dent-Brown. 143.167.137.186 (talk) 08:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hilton San Diego Gaslamp Quarter

You have no right to just remove an article without proper due process, regardless of the fact you are an admin. You are morally obligated to reinstate the article and allow due process and voice of contributers to take its path. You have shown an act of power hunger. And if you delete this article, you might as well delete every other article about a specific Hilton hotel, because there is quite a few.--Cooljuno411 (talk) 21:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello there, sorry for the delay in replying but I've been at work and only edit from home as a rule. I'm also sorry that you are obviously upset about the deletion of the article you drafted, but I can assure you that due process was followed. The due process for a speedy deletion is...well... speedy! So I appreciate that you may not have felt you had enough time to intervene. Your article was about a branch of the Hilton hotel chain which did not assert the notability of that branch. That is to say, the article did not have anything to say about why this particular hotel was special, remarkable or unusual. I'm afraid I don't feel morally obligated to reinstate the article, though if you feel there is more to be said about this hotel (and have the sources to verify this) I'd be happy to restore the text to your user space where you can work on it. Would you like me to do this?

On the other hand if you feel that instant re-instatement is in order, then you could ask for a deletion review. As to articles on other Hilton hotels, if these exist then they do not constitute a case for keeping this article - see the essay called Other Stuff Exists. I haven't deleted these since they haven't been tagged for speedy deletion. I don't go hunting pages to delete, I just scan the list of tagged pages: if anyone tags other individual Hilton hotels, and their articles don't assert notability, I'd delete them as well. Best wishes, Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 18:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Speedy deletion

Hello, thanks for the reply...I have worked on it pretty much over the last months offline and was just trying it again. However, I don't know how to put refrences in, so I just put a sources area in the sandbox...that's probably why it isn't 'wikipedable'. Anywaym Thanks. METALFREAK04 (talk) 17:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] David and Sam PR

Good day,

I would definitely enjoy some help with rewriting the David and Sam PR article. I was trying to model it after the Off Madison Ave article and thought it was pretty similar. I'm a little confused on how it did not meet the criteria because I know it was marked for deletion before in the past, but when I contested it they had removed the speedy deletion marker because they found it followed the guidelines. I'm not sure that anything had been changed on it other than a few brief updates.

Thanks. ReggieGorilla (talk) 16:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello Reggie, I can see how you used the other article as a model and the difference between them is small. Frankly I'd say the Off Madison Ave fails to assert notability as well, but I tend to be an exclusionist where articles on commercial firms are concerned. However I don't go round seeking out articles for deletion, so I'm not going to tag it!

I think your original article had fewer references and those that were there did not all seem to me to be substantial references in high quality sources. This is a judgement call (see WP:ORG for the notability criteria) but it did not seem that this company had done anything that a thousand others had not, and was not worthy of any especial attention. Indeed, PR companies by their very nature will tend to generate their own press coverage, so it would be an exceptional company who did NOT have a portfolio of clippings!

As you can see, I'm a bit sniffy about this kind of article: but I can say I did have to think quite hard before deleting yours. One more substantial reference from an authoritative source (eg a feature article from an independent newspaper - not a paid for feature or a mention in passing) and I think the original article would have been a keeper. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 16:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVII (May 2008)

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[edit] Re: PNGlish

Thanks for letting me know. After I tagged it, I thought that this may happen, but I didn't know which one to use. I mean, db-WIKIPEDIA_IS_NOT_A_CRYSTAL_BALL is a redlink. J.delanoy^gabsanalyze 15:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I've given my Delete opinion at the AfD. A shame that it fell out of criteria for CSD: it's an obvious delete, IMHO. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 15:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Cam Nacson

Hi Mate, I do understand the guidelines in which Wikipedia run but I do believe Cam Nacson and the Third Wheel are worthy of recognition by Wikipedia. You will find Cam Nacson is one of the most talented songwriters of his generation. He at the age of 17 has written over 50 tracks. He writes, sings, plays guitar, piano and drums as well as production of all of his tracks and other up-coming artists. At 9 years old he wrote his first song and although went through a dry spell he has written over 45 tracks in 3 years and the tracks just keep coming. Cam Nacson has gained recognition from both peers and industry professionals alike. This kid is truly talented and "the number one spot is just waiting for him." (quote; Free2Go radio DJ, the official Byron Bay schoolies radio station.) Radio friendly music combined with amazingly meaningful and evocative lyrics, where could you go wrong?

I would like to get a page for them up asap as it will be a great future contribution to wikipedia. If you have any doubts just listen to them on myspace and you will see exactly why they are destined for greatness.--John H. Benici 01:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello John, I do understand the feelings of frustration when an article about a topic you care about is deleted. Unfortunately Cam Nacson does not presently meet the criteria for notability that apply to musicians. However much potential he has, he needs to realise that potential (eg by charting a release on a recognised national chart, or releasing on a major label). Have a look at the criteria from the blue link I highlighted. If he meets these, I'll happily help you rewrite and reinstate the article. Best wishes, Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 07:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah fair enough mate, is there any way you can help me out with getting the article up? They actually do have quite a fan base. Have a look at their myspace; myspace.com/camnacson --John H. Benici 13:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)