Talk:Kidulthood

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>>It has had comparisons to La Haine, Clockwork Orange and Kids.<< What comparisons? Made by whom? RossyG 21:48, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

The day-to-day type structure of the film is all that is parallel to La Haine. La Haine, to me, is much more captivating and convincing. Having lived in London Housing Estates and in Parisian Ghettos (Banlieu) myself, I have intimate knowledge of both worlds, and although London is now getting to that stage in street activity, the movie was inconsistant in a lot of ways. The ambiance was off at most times. In La Haine, they include the ambiance when they are in the Téci/Cité as they do when they are in the actual Paris. I don't think you can compare a film like Kidulthood to La Haine. The fact that they are both European efforts does not necessarilly pidgeon-hole them into the same category. London independent cinema has a lot of growing up to do, but is steadily finding it's feet and moving out of America's shadow. France understands this concept, and has done for at least the past decade and a half, and that's why films like La Haine and Raille, amongst many others, can bring an authentic ethnic feel to European cinema, in being that they do not speak English and so do not feel the need to compete with Americans. There is more room for their identity to take form. London is a very busy city, at ALL times, on ALL levels. Estates are no different. If a road is empty, look to the flat blocks, because that's where everyone is. But how is this reflective in any of the Black British films? Life and lyrics, Kidulthood, etc..The estates look so deserted, when that is the center of all Urban activity. How many times, in real life, can you go to an area of West, East or South London and not see a bunch of black youths just hanging about? All these little miscalleneous facts are the building blocks to the realism that makes French and American cinema so appealing. Boys N The Hood, Menace to Society, South Central, Juice, There Are No Children Here, First Time Felon etc... There is an element of reality that makes it credible. Black London has it's own sound and language (infused by West African Creoles and WAC based languages, like Jamaican Patois introduced by immigrants and their descendants) and it's own culture and music. It's music is Grime, which is an off-shoot of Garage, off-shoot of Bashment (garage MCing is mainly done in Patois, spoken with a broader english accent infused). Music reflects the language, so I don't understand how most Black British movies have American Hip-Hop soundtracks. This stifles any credibility the Black British Industry might have. In French movies (La Haine, I cite as example) the soundtracks are Hip-Hop orientated, but infuse more strings and melodic sequences in it, leaving it sounding like a Hip H-opera of some sort (as it has been called). In La Haine, they mixed Edith Piaf with a Hip Hop sound, bringing a unique sound to Hip Hop that, unsolicited by a progenitory mark, I can safely assume, will not be heard anywhere else on the planet. The difference between French and British movies stretches longer than the Channel. This is why is don't really think it wise to compare Kidulthood to La Haine. Of course, this is just my oppinion on the Comment section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.100.174.95 (talk) 14:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "See also"

What the hell does "Jeepers Creepers 2" have anything to do with this film? --Spe88 04:16, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

80.176.140.142 13:18, 27 December 2006 (UTC)This page should probably be re-editted.

80.176.140.142 13:19, 27 December 2006 (UTC)uh, that was quick :)