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Contents 1 Welcome message 2 your welcome message... 3 Would like to increase involvement in the site 4 Welcome Template 5 Thanks for the input and guidance. 6 Thanks 7 Thank you for the links and advice 8 thank u 9 thanks 10 Thanks 11 appreciating the good work done by yuou. 12 Speedy deletions 13 User:WoWzors! 14 thanks! 15 Thanks for the intro 16 message 17 Hokay! 18 simplywireless 19 Thanks. 20 Thank you for the welcome 21 Thanks 22 Thanks for the welcome message 23 Help - your thoughts on avoiding problems. 24 Pictures/images 25 Are editors self-appointed? 26 Congrats 27 Thanks 28 Thanks 29 Thanks 30 Hello 31 Vinaka 32 thanks 33 incorrect identification of an image 34 Welcome 35 Welcome template 36 Hello 37 Hello? 38 Thanks for the quick tips!! 39 Speedy deletion 40 Thanks for the welcome message 41 welcome message plus question. 42 Thanks 43 Thanks 44 Hello 45 ? 46 On editors and reversions

Welcome message

Hi,

I wonder if it is allowed to define a wikipedia user's group as a category of users ; my point is to relate people who share something in common, such as the follow-up of philosophic lectures.

Yours,--Lilliputian 08:57, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

nothing new. Do you know personaly smbdy who can handle such a topic ?

Cheers,--Lilliputian 14:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

your welcome message...

hey, you left a welcome message, but you should probably read the title of the page before you hit save. You left one on my bot's talk page. Thanks anyway, even if i already hae over a thousand edits... By the way, my bot wanted to say something to you: 010010101000101001010101010001111010101011101000
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(that doesn't actually mean anything by the way) MichaelBillington 09:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

No worries, i'll see you around. MichaelBillington 09:35, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Would like to increase involvement in the site

Hey Kf4bdy, nice to hear from you. I'm interested in increasing my activity in the Wikipedia community. What ways would you recommend I get involved?

I'm a quote-unquote newspaper guy and I've been really interested in the Wiki idea in the past. I'm sure you could use some more newsroom types around here.

Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks!

Stick Fig 20:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Welcome Template

Hey -- you might want to check up on your welcome template and have it link to your own user talk page. Thanks :) — Ilyanep (Talk) 22:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I don't mind if people use my welcome template, in fact I don't think you're the only one :) — Ilyanep (Talk) 02:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

ok - Unsigned comment left by Bergoine

Thanks for the input and guidance.

Thanks. This is a great resource! And as a community we can all add a lot.

Thanks. Have a good night!  :)

hello! thank you for your greeting, it was just what i was looking for! i actually created a new page, which is a candidate for speedy deletion. This is understandable i suppose based on the quality of the page. But the content is not something that deserves deletion. I have been trying to get help from more experienced users in editing the page, but not much has been done. I was hoping you may be able to help me by improvng the page up to wikipedia standards while i learn how to create quality pages. I fear that if no one helps soon, the page will be deleted. I have contested the speedy deletion, but it may not stand. Thank you once again for the greeting, and i hope you can find time for this!

-thepilge

Thanks

Thanks for all information.

Thank you for the links and advice

Thank you for the links and advice! I have been browsing Wikipedia for several years now but I did not find very much really useful information here until recently. I now browse it almost every day and I joined the site on 20 May 2006.

I doubt very much that I will ever be adding a complete page all by myself as, although I am 65 years old and have a 140+ I.Q., my knowledge is very general, i.e., I know where to find the knowledge in either my 30 000+ reference book collection or on the Internet. I have rather poor memory-recollection capabilities, however, so I seldom try and memorize anything, I just look it up. I am an expert in absolutley nothing....

I have done some small edits to several of the pages over the past few months, mostly items such as correcting a very few typos I have found, correcting some links that led to Wikipedia redirect pages instead of to the correct page, and added a few new exterior links such as I did on the Ménière’s disease page tonight. I have suffered from this syndrome for several years now and had found a few more websites devoted to it that were not referenced on its Wikipedia page. Please have another look at my edits there (I have now finished) and correct any that you think I should not have made.

My most humble appologies if I made any boo-boos there tonight but I find the Wikipedia "Help" for new Users very confusing! And thank you for the links to those "Help" pages but I already have most of those already bookmarked, I just don't understand them...<sigh>...and I have been accessing bulletin board systems, online forums, and the Usenet, one way or another, since around 1987 but Wikipedia has got me beat trying to understand how to properly edit it.

Miraclewhip

thank u

THANKING YOU FOR YOUR REPLY.

thanks

thank you i was just wonder how do you edit or add a picture? Unsigned comment left by Chantal3

Thanks

Thanks for the info and the welcome! There is a lot of stuff there I was interested in, but as a newbie, wasn't sure how to go about doing. With this info, I look foward to further helping improve this already great site.

Thank you Unsolicited 08:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

appreciating the good work done by yuou.

Thank you very much for your advice , really this is very interesting and it has a lot of educational materials internationally and also for local people. With a kenyan of yemeni origion working in Yemen, I found very ineresting and educational materials about my coubtry. Regards.

    Abdillah Bafadhil

E-mail:- bafadhilao@yahoo,come

thanks

Speedy deletions

If you would like to have something speedily deleted, simply mark it with {{db|(reason)}}. You don't have to take it to AFD like you did here. For more information, please see WP:SD or WP:CSD. Instead of {{db-reason}}, you could use these templates as an even faster way. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:10, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I wanted to thank you for your kind welcome! I was feeling afraid someone was going to yell at me because I had messed up (it's a long story and probably not worth repeating--because not only that, I screwed up again by replying to another guy instead of you!) Yikes! I really am reading the instructions, I swear. Who would believe that in real life i am an archivist? --Wichienmaat 05:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

User:WoWzors!

I noticed you welcomed this user to Wikipedia. I don't know if you're aware of this, but WoW is a reference to Willy on Wheels, our worst vandal. If you see WoW again, it would be much appreciated if you note it at WP:AIV. Thanks! CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 07:09, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks for registering me. Kindly note I am beginner in oprating the computer. I am very much confused as my simple question is still not answered. My friends strongly recommended to use Wikipedia for my need on details or informations. May be I am new with this computer hence take time. My simple querry is what is the conversion factor to convert 'Deneir' to 'dtex'. These terms are used in man made fibre textile industries. Will somenoe help me? Many thanks once again. DM DESAI.

thanks!

thanks! happy wiki-ing!  ; )

Thanks for the intro

Just wanted to say thanks for the intro. I've used Wikipeia for years as a tool and I thought maybe I would finally join in and add some things. I appreciate the chance to be a small part of things.

Thanks

Psycler

thanks

message

thanks! ; )

kanacr

thak you for allowing me this great opportunity, and I hope that I'll be as good to it as it's been to me. rikureplica

Hokay!

hokay! Inscrutable euphoria 06:54, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

simplywireless

This is not a biased article, i added it just so that i am currently researching on Wireless Services and companies, and i need to post some articles that goes into my research items as references, if this is not how this can be done. Please tell how can i do this as i would like to add some basic information on some other wireless services providers? Regards, John

Thanks.

I wish I were a patriarch. ;)

Thank you for the welcome

I am glad to add my knowledge to the world of wikipedia.

Thanks

Many thanks for welcming me to the Wikipedia World. Hope,we will talk more in future. Carpe diem , Pupunwiki 06:47, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome message

Wikipedia is weird in that it acts like a user community -- except that suddenly out of the blue, you get messages from people making clear that there are overlords who are ostensibly "watching" pages being created and edited.

That's fine, I read all the "new user" guidelines and the relevant stuff about creating/editing pages without a point of view, bias, etc. That said, it's difficult to tell whether the messages one gets are from 1) overlords or 2) fellow Wikipedians [recognizing of course that overlords *are* also fellow Wikipedians] and whether one gets certain messages because one A) did something "wrong" -- and what that was, specifically, or B) it is simply a function of some computer-generated alert based on the number of times a page is edited, visited, complained about, etc.

There seems to be a certain cultural bias against specificity in many of such cases, which makes it hard for new users such as myself who are genuinely trying to comply with the "rules"/culture to know whether they are adhering to the rules/culture -- and if not, why not -- and whether any alleged "mistakes" in this regard are genuine mistakes or just someone else's bias causing them to impute bias to me.

Does that make sense?

CounterCorp

Help - your thoughts on avoiding problems.

I am editing a page about my school. There is some controversy with the neighborhood which has resulted in an opposing web site. Whoever it is found the wikipedia article and added it as an external link, which is fine and the nature of wikipedia.

I edited it and tried to give some context in the main and maintain NPOV as best I can.

Here's my problem - due to the nature of the ongoing controversy, I anticipate that this anonymous user might not be done. How do I handle this? I don't expect him/her to be objective, and I realize that I can't be 100% unbiased, but I don't want this to turn into a fight. What would you do?

-- Uac1530 07:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts.

--Uac1530 09:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Pictures/images

Thanks. Have only recently started Wikipedia - much to learn, but I will. Please keep me advised! How do I add a picture/photograph /image please?

Osborne.

Are editors self-appointed?

I know that one of the central tenets of Wikipedia is that anyone can edit any article any time (with certain restrictions that need not be addressed here). My question is, do some Wikipedians appoint themselves editors and go around editing pages like "Neighborhood Watch" members?

If so, do they have any recognized status/power as a result -- e.g., after a certain period of time of doing this, and having been recognized as good at it, do they get the ability to make changes or tags that impact other users in ways other than simply editing other users' articles in a way that anyone else could?

It is difficult to distinguish those who are trying to do something helpful, and probably understand things better than I do, from those who are simply busy-bodies who feel compelled to change and/or comment on things because they get a certain gratification from doing so.

I'm always ready to learn and be corrected, but less interested in listening to (or accepting edits from) someone who simply enjoys correcting/editing things for the sake of feeling powerful, or some sense of civic duty.

I could spend all day editing other people's stuff, but it seems to me that unless there's a glaring error that misinforms people, editing should be left to those who 1) know something about a particular topic, or at least take a specific interest in it, and 2) those who don't make it their self-appointed job to go around editing pages.

However, if the Wikipedia culture is such that these people are regarded as harmless, or perhaps even beneficent, then I as a new-comer have to adjust my views to conform to the predominant culture.

"Editing addicts" and other busy-body types seem to me to be acting somewhat contrary to the spirit of a collective resource such as Wikipedia, which is to leave alone that which does you or others no harm.

Everyone's writing, grammer, and even Wiki-style can certainly be improved, but there's a definite feeling of having had someone change the word "happy" to "glad" for less than obvious or compelling reasons.

-- CounterCorp

Congrats

Wow. That was just amazing. I can't believe you noticed, you must be an excellent RC patroller, or a terribly efficient stalker :) . Anyway, to show my gratitude at your noticing and congratulating of my milestone, I hereby award you this cookie. RyanGerbil10 (Drop on in!) 04:26, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello, thanks for the welcome, I have actually had a few accounts here before, I just keep forgetting my password. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Buso (talk • contribs) 03:32, 5 July 2006.

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ajb333 (talk • contribs) 03:36, 5 July 2006.

Thanks

for the nice welcome. 6Reasons 07:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Thank you for the greetings! (Ardievu 08:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC))

Vinaka

Vinaka (thanks) for the welcoming message. Most grateful for allowing me to add some valuable accounts of the histories of our clan and province here in Fiji.

thanks

thanks for the wellcome - I used the IRC to find some answers and find them I did... tnx again and keep up the good work... --Boszko2 10:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your warm welcome

incorrect identification of an image

Hi, Thanks for the welcome. I'm an administrator for another wiki and that keeps me really busy so don't have a lot of time to participate here and learn all the different ways of doing things. The main Iris image that comes up when searching for Iris the plant is not an Iris, but a Dietes, a South African plant that is in the Iris family, but a different genus. I edited the text to say that, but didn't know how to replace the image with one of the other images and was reluctant to do that anyway as a first move, especially since this image which is quite nice had been higly rated. There is a wikipedia page for Dietes so it could be moved there, but I wasn't sure how to do it and unfortunately at the moment am short of time to try to figure it out. From my wiki:

• / PBS wiki page on Dietes

Welcome

Thanks!

--Daniel Nikolic 11:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Welcome template

It appears that the Welcome template you are using, such as at User_talk:C56C, has some sort of bug by which section headers that follow the template do not appear. —Centrx→talk • 06:32, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Good call. Thank you. —Centrx→talk • 08:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Hello and thanks for the welome message! --EnglishStone 08:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello?

Thanks for the welcome, not sure how or where to respond exactly. But thanks! --EnglishStone 08:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick tips!!

Thanks, forgot about the tilde... that makes it easier than trying to calculate UTC!

Any tips on how to defend my educational articles? I honestly don't see how they could be considered advertising if they include more detail on technological process than pricing or promotions?!

Speedy deletion

Regarding the article Christian Bowman, which you tagged for speedy deletion with the reason "it is an article about a person, group of people, band, club, etc. that does not assert the importance or significance of the subject", I wanted you to know that I have removed the speedy deletion tag. This article does not qualify for speedy deletion because the article states that he was "the winner of the Education Queensland, Minister's Award for Excellence in Art in 1997", which is an assertion of importance. If you still want the article to be deleted, please use the WP:AFD process. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 11:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome message

I'm reasonably new to this but have been reading all the guidelines.

The tidy up on the most recent stub I found was relatively okay as it was a matter of properly ordering and , to a degree, neutralising some of the commercial assertions in the stub. It's the next step that gets a little harder. I plan to look at the companies product releases as a against commercial trends. Also, even though I like their products, I know of one or two notable pieces of criticism of the products concerned, I guess they should be included for balance. Furthermore, there are substitutes and complimentary products from competitors, I'm guessing there should be some reference to these.

Any guidance on how to do this with an even hand. --DavidP 13:12, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

welcome message plus question.

Thank you for your welcome message. But I was just wondering do you have any idea how to edit search engine over views? An example is if I type in "Ronald Reagan" in yahoo search engine, I see the wikipedia site and it has a summary. This is Ronald Reagans official wiki summary that you will see if you want to click on his wikipedia website:

Ronald Reagan - Wikipedia Hyperlinked biography of the former U.S. President and the 33rd Governor of California. Includes notes on Reaganomics, the Iran-Contra scandal, Reagan's acting career, and his life after retirement. Category: Ronald Reagan (1911-2004) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan - 234k - Cached - More from this site - Save

A lot of articles that I type from the search engine do not have clear explained entries. I was wondering if how to work on this. Do you have to be an administrator or work on site upkeep to be able to do it? Can you file requests?

Thanks,

RisingJapaneseSun 02:02, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Likely, these are created by Yahoo staff or automatically generated by their search engine computers. —Centrx→talk • 04:51, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the friendly welcome. I'm not all that new though.

MrJ 08:25, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

I have been editing Wikipedia for about 3 years now, but thank you anyway.

Hello

Thank you for the welcome message, I am treading very carefully and with great trepidation and hopefully won't do anything stupid.

Regards

Arthur

 ?

Thank you for the information.

On editors and reversions

The three revert rule makes sense -- I guess it stops flame wars, or the wiki equivalent (edit wars?).

I get the general jist of Wikipedia, and appreciate its communal nature and spirit, but like all cultures it definitely has its more arcane bits, and what seems obvious to long-time Wikipedians is not always clear to us noobs ...

Thanks for the info and helpful suggestions. I have examined the policies, but find them a bit dense to retain after a single reading, and lack the amount of time it would take to really go through them thoroughly.

I'll try to do the right thing in good faith and the wiki-spirit. Cheers,

- CounterCorp