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Contents 1 Tourism 1.1 Touring Five Regions 2 Reverting Photo Pages 3 History 4 Pronunciation 5 Needed History 6 Ordering of cities/towns

[edit] Tourism

I am generally of a mind to simply delete the material on this page about tourist attractions on Kaua'i as not encyclopedic, even while mindful that most Wikipedians have that as their only experience with the Hawaiian Islands. However, I note there are pages on Tourism, so I've created a Tourism in Hawaii for this sort of thing and moved it there. Look at Tourism in Hawaii#Kauai. Marshman 08:22, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Touring Five Regions

I think this material recently added is appropriate for WikiTravel or the article on Tourism on Kauai - Marshman 17:42, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting Photo Pages

I'm unclear why you are reverting the addition of external links to photo pages. These appear not to be commercial in nature. There is no general rule that external links are to be removed, unless they are commercial in nature. Please explain? - Marshman 01:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] History

The text linking the widespread prevalence of chickens to the 1992 hurricane strikes me as odd, because I observed chickens roaming free when I visited the island in 1984. In fact, I was awakened by the crowing of roosters each of the 5 mornings I spent there. One of the explanations I was given at the time for free-ranging 'domestic' animals was that 19th century sailors made a practice of setting mating groups of animals loose on islands, in hopes that on a later voyage, they would find the animals had multiplied, providing a local source of meat for the returning seamen.Okie Born 18:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps both accounts are correct. I've searched around and it seems that chickens were often kept in backyards before the hurricane (probably holdover generations) and inevitably some got out and reproduced. However it appears that it is a fact that all the chicken farms on the island were destroyed during Iniki, which made them so abundant as they are today. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jgladding (talk • contribs) 20:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

well, actually, the abundance of chickens due to Iniki is false. the chicken population down here has always been high, ever since they were brought by the accient Polynesians and other foreigners. You see, the other islands all have mongoose, which decimates the bird populations on the other islands. But we don't, er? I mean Kauai doesn't. so given time, with little predators to keep them in check, the popultaions been flourishing on this island Aoikumo 02:02, 01 May 2007 (UTC)

Personal Research, I know. I grew up on Kauai from 1958-1968. There were moa (wild chickens or jungle fowl) on the island, mostly in Kokee, and in fairly small numbers, especially when contrasted to the numbers post-Iniki, and especially in the lowlands. Even Hurricane Dot (1959) and Hurricane Iwa (1982) did not not do as much as Iniki to increase the chicken population. It would be interesting to get data from wildlife zoologists, ornithologists and others on this matter.--DaKine 22:54, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't really know, but all the sources I've seen seem to indicate that there have "always" been moa and/or chickens on the island, but the number of chickens in the lowlands has massively increased since Iniki. Your mileage may vary, but that seems to be the general consensus of multiple sources... Davidlwilliamson (talk) 07:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

Kaua'i, I think, is generally erroneously assumed to rhyme with Hawai'i outside of the island, and I think the Cow-eye pronounciation is simply a pidgin version of a Hawai'ian word. --Stormj 17:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

So what do you suggest is the correct pronunciation? - Marshman 18:13, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

The correct pronunciation is 3 syllables, like this "Cow-a-ee". In Hawaiian, the apostrophe produces a glottal stop, which splits the "ai" diphthong into two syllables, as it does in Hawai'i, which is also 3 syllables. The "au" is already a diphthong so it doesn't need the apostrophe to separate it from the next "a". I think I have a book on this somewhere which I actually bought in Kapa'a in 1997. Slowmover 16:54, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

hehe, home sweet home...actually, no one is entirely sure which one it correct, there's big debate about if it's cow-eye or cow-a-ee, even among the naturalist Hawaiian population. Growing up there, er? here though, I always thought that cow-a-ee was the correct, lol. and it's the most widely assumed one =P Aoikumo 1:53, 01 May 2007 (UTC)

And Hawai'i too properly has three syllables: how a 'ee, with the 'okina representing a glottal stop. Captain Cook, when he arrived there, transcribed the name as Owyhee. Awien (talk) 03:26, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Needed History

In 1818, Dr. Schäffer, a Russian entrepreneur, occupied Kauai and negotiated a treaty of protection with the island's governor Kaumualii, vassal of King Kamehameha I of Hawaii, but the Russian Tsar refused to ratify the treaty.

-G —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.231.32.127 (talk • contribs) 12:59, 1 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Ordering of cities/towns

This might seem retentive, but the lists of important towns and interesting places both seem rather random. Perhaps they should be ordered in some useful fashion. For the towns, by population might seem natural, but I would propose that we instead list towns from one end of the island to the other, so they are more or less geographic in order. Given the linear nature of the highway system, a list from Haena to Hana might be useful. (Or Hanalei to Kekaha...) Something similar could be done with the places of interest, too, although not all of them are necessarily on the highway, so they aren't quite as linear. Opinions solicited! Davidlwilliamson (talk) 07:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I apparently felt motivated, as I have a new ordering of the towns put together. I'll insert that in a moment. Discussion still welcome, of course, but it seemed like a good idea. Davidlwilliamson (talk) 08:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)