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Contents 1 Feliz 2 The Feliz revert war 3 Hola. Me llamo Johan... 4 Hold the fort! 5 Johan Santana 6 Dshibshm 7 team templates 8 Infoboxes 9 Happy First Day of Spring! 10 My Idea 11 New template 12 Garrrett Guzman 13 Roster template 14 MLB roster page uni numbers 15 hi 16 Keep up the hard work! 17 Joba 18 Invite

[edit] Feliz

Prove to me it's not official. And please don't cite the MLB.com roster.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 19:55, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Every single current article comes from "unnamed league sources"... "agreement"... "pending physical"... There has been no official word from the Phillies ANYWHERE. JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 20:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

In fact - we had the EXACT same discussion about Alex Rodriguez not too long ago... and we were at opposite sides of the discussion... I accepted that player status should not be changed until its actually announced/official. JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 20:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

If a media outlet puts it on their transaction list, that is enough to put it on here. Official word from leagues or teams themselves isn't necessary, because they always wait longer than everyone else to announce things. This is how we do it with the NFL templates.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 20:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

So basically you are saying any rumor can now be updated on a team/player page because a media outlet reported it from "inside sources"? If you don't draw a line someone legit... you just open things up for anything... They get it wrong all the time... People jumped on Santana being traded to the Yankees when it was rumored they were the frontrunners... People jumped on the Bedard trade - which has gone nowhere so far.JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 20:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

There is a difference between a rumor and something being reported as a transaction but a reputable source. Wikipedia is about verification, not truth. As I showed in my edit summary on the roster template, Feliz's signing can be verified via a recognized, reliable source - CBS Sportsline. Nothing else is needed.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 20:20, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Well I guess I have to prove that CBS Sportsline is not a reliable source... they currently have Josh Towers as signed to a minor league deal with Colorado with an invitation to spring training on January 7th [1].... other articles have him agreeing to 1 year major league deal... meanwhile, nothing official has happened since... You still want to tell me CBS Sportsline is reliable? JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 20:28, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

One mistake does not destroy credibility, sorry. CBS is a large company, and I'm willing to bet their sports page is one of the top-visited of it's kind on the internet, along with places like ESPN.com, FoxSports.com, etc. They have credibility and you can't ruin that by saying, "See, they made a mistake on the Josh Towers signing." The Feliz signing is verifiable on a reliable source, and therefore should not be removed from the template per policy. Sorry.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 20:30, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Feliz revert war

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Pedro Feliz. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Whilst you have already passed the 3RR limit, you have not been warned (thus far); I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and your only, & final, warning. Another revert and it will have to go to the 3RR noticeboard. As it happens, I agree with your stance but reverting is not the way around it. Regards. AllynJ (talk | contribs) 20:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hola. Me llamo Johan...

Thank you sincerely for working on the Johan article. I've been fighting back the eastcoasters and random IP met fans for it seems like months and I just don't have the heart for it anymore because I know as a Twins fan I'm personally losing the best pitcher in baseball. At least he's going NL, right? Kudos to you, fine editor. To the death we fight the vandals. To the death. And by that I mean a valid verifiable resource that seems only hours away. But we fight until then! A sad day for Minnesota baseball for sure.

USA Today is a verifiable source... the Trade is agreed upon... but of course its not officially complete without the extension... until then... he's not a Met.. and his page has to reflect that... $ talks can always fall apart... nothing is a given. JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 22:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I 100% agree. And I just had a good laugh. Who knew that JS was born in Cup Cake Village? who knew!?! Keeper | 76 22:39, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

FWIW, I'm at least attempting to get some help. We'll see how it goes. Keeper | 76 22:53, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

and help received. Semi protected for 3 days. Now off to the next trade rumor....Keeper | 76 23:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hold the fort!

You are one tough guy fighting off all the delerious Mets' fans. :-). --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:18, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm trying......... JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 02:20, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		I, Brewcrewer, hereby award you with the "Defender" barnstar for your heroic efforts in fighting off all the delirious Mets' fans on the Johan Santana page. brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Johan Santana

Why can't we just change it now. He's more of a Met than he is a Twin anyways. He's been the best pitcher since 04. He ain't going to break down when he gets there. HPJoker ^{Leave me a message} 05:00, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

(Stupid Example) If he gets into a car accident tomorrow morning on his way to the physical and breaks his leg - the Mets can say no deal... Until he passes that physical - the deal is not done... period... And players have failed physicals before... that is why they have physicals in the first place... and that's why contracts are not signed until players pass them... (1 trade I'll never forget that didn't happen due to a failed physical was one between the Yankees and Padres in the 90's when they were supposed to get Greg Vaughn... he failed... no deal... it's not like the players are sent "back"... they were never officially traded in the first place). JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 05:05, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Wouldn't he be flying there?

Anyways, if that happens, can't we just change it back. I won't complain anymore. Infact, I might call you a God. Have you looked at my user page? Just wandering. --HPJoker ^{Leave me a message} 05:12, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

He's gotta get into a car between the airport and wherever the physical is being done... Met fans know that cabs from LaGuardia airport can be death traps for players (see Tom Glavine).... anyways, I was under the impression that unless it was 100% official and complete, it shouldn't be updated.... JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 05:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Does it really matter much? He's 75% Met right now, more than 50. I think it would be better to do it now than it would to have to deal with more vandals tomorrow. HPJoker ^{Leave me a message} 05:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Always going to have to deal with vandals.... and he's still 100% Twin.... its either 0% or 100%... there's no in between officially.JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 05:32, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

How bout this? Can you lock the page for IPs and accounts without 100 total edits? HPJoker ^{Leave me a message} 19:15, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Santana is officially a Met. No need to change it now. HPJoker ^{Leave me a message} 19:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm aware... I was following the news. I wasn't just blindly undoing everything.JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 19:56, 2 February 2008 (UCT)

And I was supposed to know that how? HPJoker ^{Leave me a message} 19:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dshibshm

Is there any way that he is just the smartest vandal in Wikipedia? --Rabbethan 05:21, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] team templates

Players on the DL are still on the roster. I really don't think everyone on the 40 man roster should be included on those templates. They should be just for people on the active roster. Otherwise this is just a complete duplication of the regular roster templates. In other words, guys who are on the roster at Las Vegas or Jacksonville should not be listed as being on the Dodgers current roster. Spanneraol (talk) 01:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Players on the DL are on the 40-man roster... not the active 25-man roster... why do they get to be there but not the other members of the 40-man? Every player on the 40-man gets paid Major League salaries - no matter where they are - they are not the same as other people in the minors. And yes - the template basically IS the same as the big roster template... but used for completely different purposes.JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 01:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Cause guys on the DL are active major leaguers who are hurt. Guys on a minor league roster shouldn't be on something called the "current" roster. It doesn't make any sense. If you go to Meloan's page and see he is "currently" on the Dodgers when in fact he is on Las Vegas it could be confusing. also, guys on the 40 man roster do not get paid the same if they are in the minors as if they are in the majors. They get paid different wages and do not acure major league service time, which they WOULD do if they were on the major league DL. Spanneraol (talk) 01:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes

Why have you started to remove the 'present' designation from 40-man roster players who are on optional assignment? --Street20 (talk) 03:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

To be consistent with any other year. On players who see time in the majors get the team/year listed in their infobox. JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 03:14, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Happy First Day of Spring!

[edit] My Idea

you might want to check this out--Yankees10 01:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New template

There is a flaw in it. The Nationals do not have any inactive infielders and where they should be, there is a blank space. Do you think you can fix that?

Yeah - I saw that - I'll figure it out... JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 23:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

OK - think I got it now.... Let's see if anything else pops up.JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 23:45, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Garrrett Guzman

Will you ever get your facts staight before you go to the undo button? Garrett Guzman was traded from the Twins to The Nats so the Nats had the priviledge of outrighting him into their minor league system (remembering he was a Rule v player who would have had to be returned to the Twins). You may be a supervising editor but do your job and get your facts straight. ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.46.43.74 (talk) 15:38, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Your summary made it sound like he was traded to the Twins, which is why I undid it. By the time I realized what the situation actually was, - Street20 had already fixed it. Misunderstandings happen - we're human. Calm down.JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 16:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Roster template

I think it would be better to list the closer seperately. What do you think? --Street20 (talk) 04:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

a 'small' closer tag works... a separate heading? probably not necessary. JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 04:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MLB roster page uni numbers

Hi Just ... I haven't been doing much work on the roster pages this year since you, Street20 & Chrisjnelson seem to have it well covered. The reason I added Melillo's and Calero's numbers to the A's roster page is because that's what they are on the mlb.com roster page. Last year, we kept the Wikipedia roster pages in sync with the mlb.com pages unless someone had definitive evidence that they were wrong. Is that not the policy this year? If not, what are we supposed to use as the primary reference source? --Sanfranman59 (talk) 21:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Well the basic logic is - if a player currently on the 25-man has the number, it no longer belongs to the guy who is inactive. Some teams will blank out a players # in that case on the mlb.com roster... some don't bother with that update... even though they should... A number can't be issued twice simultaneously during the regular season (spring training is another story)JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 21:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Two players on the active roster obviously can't have the same uniform number, but I didn't think that applied to players who are not active. At least that's the way we did it last year. It doesn't matter much to me one way or the other, but it seems that there should be some consensus. I think others are making edits so that the pages here mirror those at mlb.com. Anyways, thanks for the response. --Sanfranman59 (talk) 22:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] hi

hi Just so you know, I'mOnBase and you're not. 19:50, 6 May 2008 (UTC) and lets hope it stays that way

[edit] Keep up the hard work!

You are a machine! Keep rockin'!Philatio (talk) 03:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Joba

Why you take out my Joba edit? That's factually true. What up yo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.85.156.187 (talk) 19:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Can you provide a source? And how is it relevant to his biography? JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 19:43, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Invite

Please accept this invite to join WikiProject Philadelphia Phillies, a WikiProject dedicated to improving all articles related to the Philadelphia Phillies. We hope you can join and contribute greatly to the project.

KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 15:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)