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[edit] John's year of birth is probably 1170 of 1175

If John was born around 1148, then he would have been nearly 90 years old by the time of his death around 1237. It is noted that his grandfather, Walter II, Count of Brienne[1], had a son named Jean de Brienne who was the abbott of Beaulieu from 1156 to 1192 and may have been confused with John of Brienne, the King of Jerusalem, Especially on the presumed birth-year of 1148. King John of Brienne was probably born in 1170 or 1175, as he was one of the 5 children of Erard II, Count of Brienne[2]. Sundehul 18:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)