Talk:John Marshall Harlan II

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Needs a better, bigger picture, similar to other modern Justices, preferably an official photo if one can be found.

[edit] Possible copyright issues

A lot of this article seems to be a light edit of a text copyrighted by Princeton University.

• http://mondrian.princeton.edu/CampusWWW/Companion/harlan_john.html

(If it were a printed commercial text, one would not hesitate to say it was plagiarized.) Quatloo 19:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article title and Harlan's actual name

This article is titled "John Marshall Harlan II" and the subject's bolded name in the first sentence is also given in that form. Subject to being corrected, I don't believe "II" was actually part of Harlan's name. Disambuguation to avoid confusion with the first Justice Harlan is obviously necessary, but perhaps the (II) should be in parentheses or Harlan II's dates should be given instead of implying that "II" was part of his actual name. I didn't want to make an important change like a page-move without consensus, however. Comments? Newyorkbrad 19:47, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

You are correct Brad, as evidenced by http://www.supremecourtus.gov/about/members.pdf, but what I worry about is confusion. The Supreme Court Historical Society uses the "II". I think the parens would be a good compromise in the article, or a caveat placed within the article itself. I wonder why they didn't make it part of his name...? Hmmm. Anyway, it should at least be noted for accuracy. --DavidShankBone 17:15, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree that the name should be changed; the current page gives the wholly inaccurate impression that the II is part of the justice's name. In my own experience (I am a lawyer), I've typically heard this Justice Harlan referred to as Harlan the Younger. I'd suggest the page and the heading be therefore changed to "John Marshall Harlan (the Younger)." (The page for the elder Justice Harlan can remain the same (with, obv., an appropriate modification to the disambiguation link.)--Apascover 18:30, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion, but eek, I like that even less. I was thinking of "John Marshall Harlan (II)" or the like. Actually, the current title bothers me less than it did five months ago, but that's probably just familiarity. Newyorkbrad 18:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

The problem, as I see it, with (II) is that people actually use "II" as part of their name, but Justice Harlan did not. As I said, IME, "the Younger" is the most common form I've encountered in practice, regardless of its mellifluity. --Apascover 15:18, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Sweeps (on hold)

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed.

Article needs better citations. I tagged uncited statements.

I will check back in no less than seven days. If progress is being made and issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GAR). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions, and many thanks for all the hard work that has gone into this article thus far. Regards, Ruslik 08:03, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

The article was kept. Ruslik (talk) 06:00, 7 May 2008 (UTC)