Talk:John H. Hinderaker

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This article is politically slanted with snide unsupported statements.

Here is an example:

"This revelation has not been publically acknowledged by Hinderaker or Power Line."

Acknowledged by Powerline here:

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/010093.php#010093

and here:

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/010105.php#010105

and as referenced in the link above acknowledge by Hinderaker here:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/462ibzoo.asp

That is clear, repeated and public by both Powerline and Hinderaker.

This exercise could be repeated on other slanted statements in the article.

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What are some of the other slanted statements? I fixed the acknowledgement problem.

Note that I am not the original author. Richard L. Peterson 3/16/06

Should this article be merged with Powerline? That is what Hinderaker is notable for. Rich 10:26, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Changes made 18-Sep-2006 2 Accurately portraying subjects record: 3 Views on mainstream media 4 Apparent target of Democratic Underground

[edit] Changes made 18-Sep-2006

Wikipedia's policy on Biographies of living persons states that

Wikipedia also contains biographies of people who, while notable enough for an entry, are nevertheless entitled to the respect for privacy afforded non-public figures. In such cases, editors should exercise restraint and include only information relevant to their notability. Material from primary sources should generally not be used unless it has first been mentioned by a verifiable secondary source. (see above).

(Emphasis added.) I have therefore removed lots of information about Hinderaker's personal life and political donations from the article.

I also cleaned up the "External links" section. I removed several links which now appear in the article or were broken and fixed the link to his bio at Faegre and Benson. I also deleted the link to "Is John Hinderaker Nuts?", because it violates WP:EL.

Cheers, CWC(talk) 23:34, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Accurately portraying subjects record:

CWC keeps adding in "anthropomorphic" to global warming references, as well as the adjective "alarmist". The latter is his POV and therefore contrary to Wikipedia rules (perhaps label Hinderaker's view of the science as "alarmist"?) The former adds personal interpretation to the cited statements, which cannot be acceptable for a number of reasons - especially when adding new content in the middle of a quote. It appears he is trying to soften the subjects viewpoint of record. At the least, his rationale needs to be explained here before doctoring the quotes. Getterstraight 01:02, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Views on mainstream media

A very consistent theme in H's blogging is his perceived bias and incompetence in the "mainstream media" - this occurs several times weekly if not daily. I added that as a heading instead of leaving this theme represented by a single, stale 2004 reference. I added a more recent example, and cleaned it up by taking copious detail which did not relate to the subject's work on the issue described. Reads much better and encyclopedic now, don't you think? Getterstraight 04:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Apparent target of Democratic Underground

This article is being targeted by Democratic Underground[1]. I would remind editors that organizing on third party sites for the purposes of disruption of Wikipedia (ie., circumvention of WP:3RR) is against the rules, and could get users blocked. - Crockspot 13:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thankfully, that DU thread didn't get much attention and has pretty much been forgotten except for one of two people. I had thought of requesting semi-protection, but the disruption has been minimal. Jinxmchue 14:51, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't matter how many people were involved. If only one addional user was recruited from DU to circumvent 3RR, that's still organizing off-wiki to disrupt. Crockspot 15:37, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

True, but my point is that the disruption isn't amounting to much. It's good to be warned about it and I intended to do so myself, but then I saw how feeble the response to the post was and decided not to really worry about it unless it became really troublesome. Jinxmchue 15:43, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

This is not the first time members of that far left website have attempted to recruit other posters to disrupt Wiki entries in the name of ideology - with the apparent blessing of the administrators of DU (since such posted threads are never deleted or "locked") - and I doubt it will be the last. It's a recurring theme with their membership. Placing topic on watchlist; will revert expected ongoing vandalism as it occurs and/or is encountered.Carthago delenda est 19:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)