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[edit] No "gwa" sound in Japanese

While I agree that romaji doesn't have a "gwa" Japanese itself does. The sound a frog makes is usually romanised to "gua." A google searched netted only 22 results for "honguanji." "Honganji" netted 50,800 and "hongwanji" resulted in 80,800. Now I don't know anything about this sect from personal experience, but generally the more commonly used name is what we use on Wikipedia. The final nail in the coffin should be that the sect's official site uses the "w" http://www2.hongwanji.or.jp/english/ .--Dustin Asby 18:49, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_kana_usage - this sound is not commonly used anymore, but did exist as が

I once heard from someone who was a Shin Buddhist priest. He pointed out that although Hongwanji is pronounced "hon-gan-ji", the Hongwanji still prefers the more traditional spelling with the "gwa". Why they prefer that rather than a more modern spelling was never made clear to me, but the official spelling by the Hongwanji does have the "gwa". --Ph0kin 07:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shinran and Honen were not exiled by the Kamakura Bakufu

Please check historical references before writing biographical information. Shinran and Honen were not exiled by the Kamakura bakufu. They were exiled by Emperor Gotoba at the behest of the Kofukuji temple, and the Emperor's decision had more to do with personal reasons (losing a couple of his ladies-in-waiting) than for religious ones. The Kofukuji temple used this incident to persuade the Emperor to finally persecute Honen and his followers.

Anyways, I've made a number of corrections on the Shinran biography section because there was a lot of misinformation there that needed to be cleared up. This information is easily found on the web, and in biographical books. Please be careful to get the facts right. Thanks! Ph0kin 05:58, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted Josho Adrian Cirlea from list of Modern Shin Thinkers

Cirlea has only been ordained for a few years and has not produced any works of major significance yet that would justify inclusion alongside the other people on this list. At best he could be included on a list of Western Shin priests but that is all. In addition, by checking the edit log one can see that Cirlea added his own name to the list in a blatant case of self-promotion.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.19.85.230 (talk) 14:28, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

This person re-added their name; this time to the list of Major Modern Thinkers! Even leaving aside their minor significance in Shin history they should not be adding their own name to the article - it is totally unethical. I have re-deleted it. --Nio-guardian (talk) 15:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


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