Talk:Jimmy Patterson
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[edit] Deletion
This article was prodded (pending deletion) on 28 November with the reason that "Wikipedia is not a game guide". Please, let us vote and see whether this page should really be deleted. I personally think it should not, since this article is not in any way like a game guide, but more like a biography. -- 0612 06:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Deletion
If you read the article, you will see that in no way a person is being shown how to beat the game, it is only give a history of a character of character. In fact, none of these events occur in one single game.
[edit] Fort Schmerzen
Will someone stop moving "Attack on Fort Schmerzen" to the spot above "Needle in a Haystack?" In the actual chronology of the game, Frontline takes place in June, August, and SEPTEMBER of 44 while Schmerzen takes place in NOVEMBER, after "The Horten's Nest." Pay attention, people. Knight45 20:45, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Info From Heroes
Can someone fill in the information from Medal of Honor Heroes, besides the fact that Patterson proposed to Manon ESommers 17:10, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Question of Dates
Aren't Missions 2 and 3 in June 1944, not July? ESommers 17:10, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Panzerknacker Unleashed
Information from the secret mission (#8) from Medal of Honor Underground should be here as well, since it is Jimmy's mission. ESommers 17:16, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
It could be argued that that mission wasn't canon to the MOH storyline, however. D Boland 02:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
I added it.Bwing55543 19:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Move Content
Some of the content in this article needs to be moved to the particular game it relates to. I know what should be moved to Medal of Honor: Frontline, however I need help as to to where the rest goes. This entire article should probably be structured more like Link, but I can't take that all on right now.--Clyde (talk) 21:48, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
- That brings an interesting problem though. Are we trying to "move" content so that all the relevant game articles get the necessary plot section and therefore delete this article, or are we cleaning up both this article and the game articles? --Scottie_theNerd 02:53, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
- What's written here appears to be the entire story for every single game combined together. In this article, the appearances Jimmy makes in a game should be a summary about that game's plot, not it's word for word story. I think it would be best to transfer the plot into the correct game's story (possibly cleaning it up in the process), and then re-add a summary of Jimmy's appearance in that game (or as an alternative cut down then current content). Hopefully, that would end with well written plot summaries for each game, as well as a correctly structured and possibly new "Appearances" section in this article. In other words "move" the content so that all the relevant game articles get the necessary plot section but don't delete the article.--Clyde (talk) 22:57, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
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- There's problem attached to that though: what makes Jimmy Patterson notable? Apart from being the protagonist of many Medal of Honor games, is there anything that makes him worthy of an article according to Wikipedia guidelines? --Scottie_theNerd 04:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Few articles exist about characters, but I feel a little like a sloth saying let's delete it simply because I don't feel like looking. I find that many things here can be proved notable if you put in the time. Also there's good content that still needs to be transfered, so I don't want to endorse deletion until that's taken care of.--Clyde (talk) 04:59, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed. The point I was making was that there aren't any sources that prove Patterson's notability; everything is in-universe. --Scottie_theNerd 05:04, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Most characters have to be referenced by articles about the games they appear in, but I don't know to what extent that can be used (I.E. "You take on the role of Jimmy Patterson, an American Army Private.." blah blah blah). I think the most that can be created from that is a stub or start type article, but the possibility is there.--Clyde (talk) 19:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed. The point I was making was that there aren't any sources that prove Patterson's notability; everything is in-universe. --Scottie_theNerd 05:04, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Few articles exist about characters, but I feel a little like a sloth saying let's delete it simply because I don't feel like looking. I find that many things here can be proved notable if you put in the time. Also there's good content that still needs to be transfered, so I don't want to endorse deletion until that's taken care of.--Clyde (talk) 04:59, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- There's problem attached to that though: what makes Jimmy Patterson notable? Apart from being the protagonist of many Medal of Honor games, is there anything that makes him worthy of an article according to Wikipedia guidelines? --Scottie_theNerd 04:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
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As the person responsible for nearly 90% of the information on the page, I obviously vote against deletion or modifying the existing setup. There is a good wealth of information here which I had to gather by replaying MOH, MOH: Frontline and even MOH: Underground, not only to get the dates but also the unlockables like Patterson's College Transcript and his OCS marks, information that fills the very large lack of general information about the character. Basically, keep all the information here, because it's just about the ONLY information out there on him.
As for being Notable, Patterson has four appearances in the Medal of Honor games, two of which were devoted entirely to him. What makes him unnotable? Because he doesn't speak? Because their are no cutscenes? Because the game doesn't have cutscene after cutscene or narration giving away his backstory? What makes him less notable then that of Solid Snake from Metal Gear Solid or Master Chief from Halo, both of whom have their own articles? (BeQuiet! (talk) 04:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC))
[edit] 101st Airborne?
He's in the 101st Airborne? I'd imagine he'd be in the 1st or 29th infantry divisions since he landed on Omaha Beach, and not air-dropped into Normandy. Can someone confirm his unit? ÇɧĭДfrĪĔпd12 04:45, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- In the original Medal of Honor, he was a C-47 pilot, presumably with the 101st. According to the MOH: Frontline manual, his leadership skills resulted in him being shipped back to England to land with the troops at Normandy - the exact division slips my mind. The anomaly is that his back story was retconned due to Pvt Barnes (the original playable character in MOH:F at Normandy) being made an unplayable character, thus requiring Patterson to fill in the Normandy role. --Scottie_theNerd 09:55, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- The manual says that he lands at Normandy with the 116th Regiment, which is part of the 29th Infantry Division. I do know that the soldiers' uniforms in-game are not marked in the D-Day level for some reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwing55543 (talk • contribs) 03:47, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
It is stated in the manual that Jimmy was shot down one June 5th, and was helped by the Resistance who snuck him abaord a fishing booat which then took him to the troop ship, USS Thomas Jefferson. There he realized that they would need every combat-effective soldier possible for the operation, so he quickly joined up with the 29th Infantry Division. As to how he found the strength to join it after his ordeal through France or was even allowed to join is unspecified. (BeQuiet! (talk) 04:01, 14 June 2008 (UTC))
