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[edit] Kennedy assassination investigation

Is it the neutrality or the factuality of this section that is in dispute? My guess (correct me if I'm wrong) is that the first and last of the 3 paragraphs in the section are okay, but there are some problems with the middle one. I suggest adding {{fact}} (request for citation) for whatever specific points are in doubt. We need more & better info on Garrison's most famous case anyway. -- Infrogmation 20:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd love if we could whip this article into shape, it certainly needs more information about the Shaw case. But not that paragraph of spin about the CIA. See Talk:Clay Shaw for more information. Gamaliel 21:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

You state: "not willing to have this discussion again...in short... voluntary contacts to CIA does not create a connection [with the CIA], which was what Shaw said." Could you please refer me to a record of this discussion. Thank you.Mtracy9 (talk) 12:29, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I went back in the history section and found: "Shaw was not "involved" with the CIA, he provided info about what he saw overseas like thousands of other Americans."

My question is this: "Wouldn't it be fairer to note in the article that Shaw had voluntary contacts with the CIA and let the reader decide (not you or me) whether this constituted a "connection" with the CIA?"

This is what the Wikipedia article on Clay Shaw seems to have done. It states:

"In 1979, Richard Helms, former director of the CIA, testified under oath that Clay Shaw had been a part-time contact of the Domestic Contacts Division of the CIA, where Shaw volunteered information from his travels abroad, mostly to Latin America. [14] By the mid-1970s, 150,000 Americans (businessmen, and journalists, etc.) had provided such information to the DCS."Mtracy9 (talk) 13:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

That information is already provided in the Clay Shaw article. It need not appear in every that mentions his name. Gamaliel (Angry Mastodon! Run!) 18:22, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

What's wrong with having it appear again. [uncivil comment removed] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtracy9 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Please discuss content, not contributors, and keep your comments civil. Thank you. Gamaliel (Angry Mastodon! Run!) 16:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Please address the question: What's wrong with having the information appear in this article? Many articles repeat information contained in other articles.Mtracy9 (talk) 13:00, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Clay Shaw's volunteering of information to the DCS is not particularly relevant to the matter of Jim Garrison's biography, especially when we have the more relevant articles on Shaw and his trial. Gamaliel (Angry Mastodon! Run!) 18:06, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

This is not the original reason that you gave, which was, "not willing to have this discussion again...in short... voluntary contacts to CIA does not create a connection [with the CIA]." To which I replied, "Wouldn't it be fairer to note in the article that Shaw had voluntary contacts with the CIA and let the reader decide (not you or me) whether this constituted a "connection" with the CIA?" Be that as it may, I will include the following in the "Aftermath" section of the "Trial of Clay Shaw," where you say that it would be more "relevant."

"In 1979, Richard Helms, former director of the CIA, testified under oath that Clay Shaw had been a part-time contact of the Domestic Contacts Division of the CIA, where Shaw volunteered information from his travels abroad, mostly to Latin America. [14] By the mid-1970s, 150,000 Americans (businessmen, and journalists, etc.) had provided such information to the DCS."Mtracy9 (talk) 13:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC)Mtracy9 (talk) 22:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wrongful Prosecution?

No details of the many wrongful prosecution see here for more details http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/garrison.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.234.250.71 (talk) 11:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dubious Claim Regarding Judge Haggerty

Considering Haggerty's very public condemnation of Garrison and the trial in general, I find it hard to believe that he felt Shaw was lying and putting forth a con job. Does anyone know if this is accurate. Ramsquire ^{(throw me a line)} 22:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)