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Missed your comment somehow the other day. "1990's" is universally wrong, and it's a pet peeve of mine, but unfortunately the lack of a search engine at the moment is keeping me from hunting them down. Oh well, eventually. :) - Hephaestos 06:43, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)

That's OK, I figured out easily enough that your thoughts on the subject pretty much match mine. *grin* - Hephaestos 17:40, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)

We can't use mp3 because it is proprietary or something -- ogg vorbis is open source. It's pretty widely supported (plays in iTunes with no problem), but that's on a Mac so probably doesn't help you. Try asking at the village pump, and place whatever information you find out at Wikipedia:Sound and Wikipedia. Tuf-Kat


Re: the listing of Disneyland Roller Coaster accident on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion. It has already been deleted so there is no need to list it. If it keeps re-appearing, it's evidently a candidate for speedy deletion and a sysop will pick it up, it doesn't need to be listed again. The VfD page is currently over 80 kilobytes long which is far too big for its own good, which is why I took your listing down.

-- Graham :) 18:34, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)


Wondering where you moved the digression, please followup at Talk:Negativland. Thanks. --Lexor|Talk 15:30, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Insensitive - Lacking in sensitivity to the feelings or circumstances of others, unfeeling. Many people including myself were upset by his comments which were truly ignorant and insensitive. The fact that his comments were not said with regard to the feelings of other make them insensitive. This is not a point of view. That I found them upseting was a reaction to the insensitive nature of the words. User:Isis chastised me once for using the phrase 'unfortunate death'. To censor such phrases from Wikipedia is to fall victim to NPOV madness. Mintguy (T) 14:49, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)



Just dropping a note to let you know that I appreciated your edits on Led Zeppelin. DryGrain 00:13, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)


After the Goldrush - Allmusic.com and my CD copy seem to think it is After the Gold Rush --Tagishsimon

It is true that the songs were not banned. It is true that a list was circulated of songs to be sensitive about. I guess the fact that it was largely generated by program directors and not the corporate office has been left out of my edits. Perhaps I need a different wording. I'll think about it. Thank you for bringing the Snopes page to my attention. —Mulad 02:36, May 3, 2004 (UTC)


I was interested in your comments on the deterioration of the Fahrenheit 9/11 article. With a controversial topic, everyone wants to make sure his or her side is properly represented, which I suppose is how it slides into being a debate transcript. Do you have any suggestions about specific changes or the general direction that the article should take? I'd be very interested in hearing your thoughts. JamesMLane 22:51, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)


Agree re. Black Dog (song) being inappropriate for the 13/8 rumour. But why remove the fact that JPJ wrote the riff? I understand this is generally accepted. Plant wrote the lyrics and Page the solo and other guitar parts, but JPJ has been widely credited with the riff. --HighHopes 23:11, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Deletion philosophy

The deletion policy, as I read it, is aimed at articles as they are, instead of how they could be. Of course, people vote to send things to Clean Up when they see a bad article that they think is notable or important (the Intel/AMD article, for example, was a miserable stub, but folks got excited and changed it while it was on VfD). In practice, people forget the policy and tend to vote for things that seem possibly important, and a lot of reviewers go off to Google and see if there is notability, etc. As I read the deletion guides, though, articles should be deleted if they cover "non-notable" subjects. That's where most of the debate seems to happen. In the case of Ecmyru, I know I want to believe that it's an important non-profit, but the article as it is didn't give its readers information to suggest that there were many members, that it was doing important things in Wales, etc. Denni and I were both saying, essentially, "Please, authors, give us a reason to keep the article. Tell us something to make the case for notability." Things only get deleted if they're non-notable, violate copyright, are dictionary definitions, are nonsense, or are incurably point-of-view. It isn't a case of "must be bad" as much as "must fit in an encyclopedia." The notability line is important in this regard, and I, personally, set the standard high by insisting that the article, as it comes to VfD, tell me about the notability. I feel like no one should be listing for VfD unless they've already done the Google search and used the Clean Up pages. Geogre 01:09, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] The Long and Winding Road

I have added more references to the article; for details see the nomination on WP:FAC. Johnleemk | Talk 16:08, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I have done the same for I Want To Hold Your Hand. Johnleemk | Talk 15:39, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Margin of error

Thanks for your comment. I made a reply at the fac page. Let me know what you think there or at my talk page. Best, Andrew (Fadethree) 21:35, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Again, thanks for your comment. I moved the discussion over to the margin of error talk page, and I made a reply there. I'll get to work on editing once I properly wake up. Best, Andrew (Fadethree) 15:02, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know that I have made some revisions to the Margin of error page to reflect the large number of polls that use 95% as a standard. Thanks for highlighting the issue for me. Best, Andrew (Fadethree) 22:01, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

[edit] Neil Young

I'm not going to fight you over this, because it's just not important, but you are wrong about the policy on embedded external links. The policy is that one doesn't add an external link like this, but a numbered external link after a statement (or clause) by way of indicating the source is perfectly normal and in fact encouraged as part of the citation apparatus. [1] -- Jmabel | Talk 05:30, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Neil Young

As I said, I don't necesarily object to the deletion of this material: I just wanted to correct you on the external links policy, before you might go around deleting some of the apparatus that makes it possible to fact-check articles. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:51, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] List of songs

Thanks for completing the merge on List of songs whose title constitutes the entire lyrics - I got as far as creating the redirect before WP decided to go into slowdown! -- sjorford 09:25, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiUser

WikiUser has some very odd ideas about his and other peoples edits here at Wikipedia. He threatens things that are totally incorrect, such as taking me to mediation without there being any sort of article content dispute between us. As for his disagreement with you I will continue to monitor his edits and agree with those that you have made - if he reverts I will put it back to your version. Be aware of the three revert rule when dealing with him and, basically, ignore the rubbish that he's spouting! violet/riga (t) 18:39, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

WikiUser appears to be a crank with a persecution complex and a nasty habit of spewing invective at anyone who makes edits he doesn't like (see e.g. [2], for which he should really have been banned). A lot of us have been on the receiving end, even including Jimbo. Frankly, if he hasn't changed his ways after six months' editing, much criticism and several temporary bans, I don't think he ever will. If he does decide to pursue a complaint against any of us - something that I would regard as an abuse of process - I won't hesitate to take him to the ArbCom to seek a lengthy ban. -- ChrisO 14:56, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Steve Dalkowski

Responded to your comments, thanks for the feedback. I'm a little confused by your objections about converting it to US style, running a spellchecker only found one word spelled the British way. Is it the grammar you don't like? Could you go into more details? Zerbey 01:40, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

for the edit on the Purple People Eater entry. Much better now. --sturgeonslawyer

[edit] Reverted history of Latvia

Hi! Just wanted to tell you that I had a look at the slightly tangled history of the article and the only thing missing after the revert was an external link (it shows in the difference between revisions [3]). --Juzeris 13:52, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Waking the Tiger

I don't know, actually. SimonP closed the discussion as 'keep', I changed that to 'NC'. Neither of us deleted it, and it's currently on RFU. Yours, Radiant_* 07:41, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Monty Hall problem

Hi - You made some comments at WP:FAC about the Monty Hall problem article a while ago. I'd like to address them, but I don't find them to be specific enough. Can you please rephrase them to be more specific? Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) July 3, 2005 22:00 (UTC)

[edit] Chicago picture vote

If you don't want to vote for Picture #3, please don't write anything in the Picture Vote section. Instead, use the Chicago Main Page Picture Vote section and comment under the picture, or post your comment in General Comments. There has been debate recently and comments will not be allowed in the Picture Vote section, only real votes. Please either vote for the image or move your comment into the appropriate comment section ASAP. Shoffman11 23:27, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Chicago Picture

Sorry, when I added the Support text to your vote I didnt realize you left it out intentionally. I didnt mean to force anything upon you or anything, I was just trying to make things simple since the vote has been much more complicated then I thought. --Gpyoung talk 23:35, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Take

I thought keeping the article take was a borderline case myself -- there's enough there to make a nice little encyclopedia stub. I would say to go ahead and remove the wiktionary tag, expand the article if you can, perhaps include a picture of a clapboard (huh, there's no mention of film clapboard there) -- see if we can find a free pic of one of these. I'll leave a comment at the page supporting your decision so people don't think it's entirely one-sided. — Catherine\talk 15:45, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Most cleanup tags are added unilaterally and can be removed unilaterally if you feel the problem has been addressed. "Move to Wiktionary" is a little different in that it is sometimes the result of a Vote for deletion, so it's good to check the history on who placed it and why -- if there's a VfD involved, then it's probably best not to second-guess the community, unless the article has changed drastically since the vote. In this case, it looks like Beland placed the tag himself, so I think we're fine keeping it. There may be more to be said -- directors who use many or long or unusual takes, the demand for Beatles alternate takes before Anthology, etc. — Catherine\talk 06:25, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cal Jam

Wondering about your edits to California Jam.

If you check out www.californiajam.com and google "california jam" in google groups, you will find that Scott Lifshine is an integral part of California Jam history. There have been 79,000 refererences to California Jam on usenet - most by or about Lifshine's recording of the concert. While it may seem strange, his obsession with the event has eclipsed the event itself 35 years later.

Reconsider the Lifshine entry to California Jam.

Also, take note that Lifshine has enemies on usenet who love to torment him regarding his obsession and have already vandalized Wikipedia regarding Cal Jam.

  • Jgm, have a look at alt.music.deep-purple. The posts under the name of wereo_gogg and wereoboy are by Lifshine, and pretty much speak for themselves. It's been going on for years. To suggest that he is an integral part of rock history (he calls himself the only one who matters in music) is, shall we say, unencyclopedic. --Puddlejumper 12:00, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] World Music

Hello! - My initial reply is on my talk page but i'm still in the middle of working on this "World Music" article and related things. It'll take me a little while to pull it all together because it involves working across multiple pages of music artists in relation to the main World Music page. --wayland 11:59, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Could you tell which ones you're referring to? --wayland 02:54, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Editing problems

I think it was caused by this script I'm using. Sorry for the inconvenience.  --  W  P Talk 02:43, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for helping out at Beatles for Sale and saving me the trouble. Johnleemk | Talk 09:42, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Millenium Park

Hey thanks for cleaning up my post about the park! i had a bad dream last night about the park and i saw the existing page as an ad for the park. I wrote the thing on the fly, and i appreciate the new wording :) i really appreciate this! i hope the picture stays up. as it is completely appropriate. how did you run across this article?

victor

[edit] Millenium Park

Hey thanks for cleaning up my post about the park! i had a bad dream last night about the park and i saw the existing page as an ad for the park. I wrote the thing on the fly, and i appreciate the new wording :) i really appreciate this! the new wording will probably help quite a bit!!! i hope the picture stays up. as it is completely appropriate. how did you run across this article?

victorgrigas

[edit] Classic Rock

I've seen lately that you have been editing a lot of the artice Stairway to Heaven and it seems that you've edited other musical articles too. I was wondering if you would contribute to my classic rock survey. There is more information on it on my user page. Thanks a lot and hope you contribute. RENTASTRAWBERRY FOR LET? röck 02:09, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] General

Hey, insightful philosophy =) [I saw your page from editing the Wikipedia:Requested_articles/music section.

Wskora 14:56, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ==Lost==

Good work with that deletion of all the Lost material from the Oceanic Airlines article. Definitely more than I would have cut, but reading over it, there's nothing I'm wanting to put back in. Mad kudos Dave 06:12, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Blues

I have tried to address your objections -- as far as I feel able to do so. Please don't hesitate to provide further objections. Vb 11:51, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for creating List of songs used in television commercials. I moved what you wrote to what I think is a better place where more people will see it: the main Television commercial article. Regards, --Unforgettableid | Talk to me 18:49, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cheers

Hi! I don't mean to intrude, but I noticed you have made some edits to the Cheers article in the past! I've given the article a serious reworking and I hope it can garner your support on it's FAC. Thanks again! Staxringold 01:55, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Katie Holmes

Greetings! You commented on the article Katie Holmes when it was on WP:FAC. I've redone the article and hope to renominate it on FAC soon. But in the meantime, I'd be grateful for your comments on WP:PR at Wikipedia:Peer review/Katie Holmes/archive1. PedanticallySpeaking 21:06, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] May we borrow...

Hello. I'd like, with your permission and with attribution, to copy Wiki cream to Talk:Monty Hall problem. We are discussing the possible WP:FARC of a once excellent (FA, Mainpage 23 July 05) piece of work that has, over an eight month period. seriously deteriorated. Your analogy is perfect.  :-) hydnjo talk 19:38, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Well thank you, this way I'll quote your words directly rather than providing a link that may or not be followed. I've been hovering around Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Usability/Main Page doing whatever to help keep things going (before hell freezes over) and noted that your response to DL was well... interesting. So, I hope you don't mind, I dropped in for a look around while you weren't here.  ;-) --hydnjo talk 03:49, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Just to let you know, there may be hope for Monty after all. And, I havn't yet posted your words of wisdom anywhere but on my talk. hydnjo talk 01:46, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ZigZag disambiguation

I'd say ZigZag (magazine) is secondary to ZigZag (software) if the former was created 1969 in UK and discontinued after five years or so, and the latter was designed in 1965 and still goes on internationally. --TuukkaH 08:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

(Replied on my talk page.) --TuukkaH 16:06, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WTC

I hope I addressed your issues about the WTC compared to the Chicago buildings. Also, JHC was not designed by Mies. (Gary Joseph 01:51, 9 April 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Copyvio

Are you sure the lyrics are copyvio? It just seems strange to think of information that is so easily available online as copyrighted. How much would qualify as fair use? Thanks, TheJabberwʘck 06:08, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stairway to Heaven

Agreed with your removal of the "Toolshed" claim, but why take out the backmasked message? Isn't it about as on-topic as you can get in a section about messages in a reversed version of the song?

By the way, I agree with you that the messages are bogus. But I think maximum information about the subject is the best way to convince people of the truth. TheJabberwʘck 04:13, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks. A sub-article is a good idea. I'm going to try and get permission from Led Zeppelin's record company to use the lyrics, and if they give me permission, I'll definitely make an article. Does Backmasking in Stairway to Heaven sound like a good title? If I can't get permission, I'm not sure there'll be enough to make a sub-article. There used to be a Stairway to Heaven Backwards, but it was deleted. TheJabberwʘck 03:19, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
No response. Does the current version look OK to you? I don't think it's copyvio to use the backwards lyrics; see Talk:Stairway to Heaven for why. Λυδαcιτγ 01:11, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Freddie Mercury is not white

Freddie Mercury is known for a fact to be Indian and not white. Your deleting him as a major non-white rockstar is wrong. Just because few people know it, doesnt make it false. Part of Freddie's legacy is the fact that he was the first Indian (and, consequently, Asian) rock star in the history of the genre. He looks white of course, but he's of the Parsi ethnicity in India. Parsis are South Asian Zoroastrians whose ancestors originated in the Middle East millenia ago. As a result, they look fairer skinned than other South Asians, but indeed have mixed racially with them to a point (as proved by recent genetic studies). See Freddie's article and the Parsi article. He goes back on. He's not a white Briton, despite trying to pass of as such. -User: Afghan Historian

[edit] Led Zeppelin article

Hey JGM (and Warrens) - I've just had a thought about what has been said about the length of the Led Zeppelin article - would it be possible to make the page appear shorter by putting large sections - such as the band's history - into drop-down boxes (as used for Wikipedia "Contents" lists)? I think that if it would be possible to do that (and have them set to "hide" as default and let the viewer "open them up"), that would be a good idea.--RichardHarrold 14:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Favorite Songs

My survey has changed. I am now continuing my mission for the best songs, but now I am accepting all genres. I'm giving you a chance to revote for your top ten favorite songs of any genres (not just classic rock which is still the best). I've made a executive decision to keep the existing survey results and just add on to that with the new entries. My feeling for doing this is because classic rock is the most influential genre in music currently so it should be expressed more in the survey. Thank you for contributing in the past, and hopefully in the future. ROCK ON. RENTASTRAWBERRY FOR LET? röck 03:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another copyvio question

Thought you might know something about this. Λυδαcιτγ 16:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of songs featured in television commercials

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article List of songs featured in television commercials, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Extraordinary Machine 18:36, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sixteen Candles

I am confused. Your most recent edit summary was "restore slightly modified "ratings" section (see talk)", but what you restored does not address the concerns on talk and there was no addition to talk.

As discussed, for most information, imdb is not a reliable source. The R->appeal->PG story is unsupported.

As discussed, the article has the source saying "both versions" include X and Y, though the source does not say that and there is no basis for the content selected.

The paragraph, in fact, is contradictory. The movie, we are told, was rated R. The rating was appealed. It was given a PG. But there are two versions? That means the film was re-cut and re-submitted, not the rating was appealed...

Now there is a new uncited claim as well. ("Current...")

Mdbrownmsw 15:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Please see the discussion at Talk:Sixteen Candles. - -- Mdbrownmsw (talk) 17:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Led Zeppelin project

Hi! I've seen you around on Led Zeppelin related articles... Would you consider becoming a member of WikiProject Led Zeppelin, a WikiProject which aims to expand and improve coverage of Led Zeppelin on Wikipedia? Please feel free to join us.

--MegX (talk) 23:06, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Led Zeppelin... You're not in this picture... yet!

Jgm, I've seen your high quality edits on a number of Led Zeppelin articles. I've set up a portal and wikiproject to help organise and co-ordinate articles and would be delighted if you could sign up.

MegX (talk) 23:06, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki Cream

FYI I've copied your thoughts at Monty Hall talk. I thought it appropriate for the goings on there lately and hope you don't mind. Thanks, --hydnjo talk 03:46, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Eagles project

Please accept this invitation to join the Eagles WikiProject (the band), a WikiProject dedicated to improving all articles associated with the The Eagles. Simply click here to accept!

Basketball110 16:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Genesis

No worries...thanks for the note. MrMarmite (talk) 07:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Page moved

Hi Jgm, I wanted to let you know I moved I'll Sleep When I'm Dead to the disambiguated page, as you requested. I'm afraid that when a redirect already exists at the desired location, non-admins can't move the page, because it requires you to delete the targeted redirect first. Regards, Parsecboy (talk) 21:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Scaruffi

Current guideline from the parent project is that Scaruffi is a usable source. Until that guidance is changed, the reference should stay. To remove it otherwise is tendentious and pre-judging the outcome. Thanks. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 01:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] WGN-TV

Thank you very much for backing me up on my argument on proper grammar. Rollosmokes (talk) 07:07, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


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