Talk:Jeff Grubb

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[edit] Notability

Article is still a stub but notability should be established by extensive works by this author. Guild War references also help to reference. Please discuss here first before reverting notability.Stextc (talk) 04:02, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Extensive works by the author are primary sources; notability can only be established by citing content, context, analysis or critical development from reliable secondary sources. Please do not remove the Notability cleanup template until content supported by reliable secondary sources have been added. --Gavin Collins (talk) 11:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References

• [1] Interview with GamingReport.com
• Interviews with Jeff Grubb in Dragon #111 and #247 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Craw-daddy (talk • contribs) 17:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Extension

I've decided to be bold, I'm afraid - the article has been extensively extended. I think I kept most of the previous work, but I've moved it around a lot. I hope that this is ok - if not, it can always be reverted or rewritten. As an aside, my major problem with the extensive use of notability tags (especially on stubs) is that it tends to lower the quality of the articles: editors need to spend all of their time adding references, rather than developing the content to an acceptable standard (or at least to start class). Thus I figured that this article needed a framework in which to add the references. should add that I removed the notabilty tags - I think Craw-daddy fixed that with the Pyramid references, but either way Sci Fi Weekly, IGN and JS Online should be enough. Bilby (talk) 15:56, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, in my opinion, notability is now demonstrated under WP:Notability (people)#Creative professionals. c.f. The "collective body of work" part in particular. --Craw-daddy | T | 16:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps - it should come under "multiple independent periodical articles or reviews", if nothing else. Given Jeff's reputation within the field, a combination of body of work, Pyramid (and other) reviews, and common sense may be sufficient too, although I'd be loathe to rely on the common sense argument if I could avoid it. Bilby (talk) 16:30, 17 February 2008 (UTC)