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Contents 1 Paramagnetism 2 Spectroscopy 3 Materials techniques 4 Surface methods list 5 Re: Scientific techniques 6 Mass spectrometry article categorization

[edit] Paramagnetism

Jcwf, Thanks for the great writing and editing and for the time you have donated to this project. I will review the page again when I have more time but I wanted to let you know that I got your note and that your edits seem sound and certainly well intentioned. I think your level of expertise is above mine on this subject. A general comment that is true of most pages in Wiki is that we should quote more sources and use footnotes. External links can be added too. Thanks for all you do. Electricmic (talk) 22:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spectroscopy

Hello. It appears that I excised that information, but I could not tell you why. I am well aware that the information is legitimate and I suspect I removed it because it was redundant or did not fit in the article's structure as it was in April and I was more concerned about resurrecting a badly-formatted article. I have tried to clear up the classification issues surroundings spectroscopy before, but it appears that whatever existed of my attempts has long since been removed. Srnec (talk) 05:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Materials techniques

Yes, I agree with you that this serves a very useful purpose. Where's the proposals page? Can you post me a link? I'm in biomaterials/bioengineering, studying characterization techniques and getting blown away with how many there are and how many acronyms I have to know. I won't be able to do much editing due to school right now, but will add when and what I can. I think you're doing a good job putting these all in one place and editing articles here and there. --Amaltheus (talk) 07:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what a portal is, though. I would like to call it "characterization techniques," which is what I do, characterize materials and matter. I'll keep adding as I can. The microscope articles are in sad shape, but many have editors dedicated to the article as it is, no matter what is wrong or missing, or, some are devoted to the biological sciences, even for techniques with extensive use and histories in the materials sciences. I do both, but most of my background is in materials science. --Amaltheus (talk) 02:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Surface methods list

Hi there, Go ahead if you want. I initially created this page for people searching via search engines who need a navigator through the jungle of acronyms (as it is sometimes not bothered on scientific pages to elucidate them). It can be supposed that one knows his own metier. The list that is supposed to be merged is ordered and very comprehensive but please make sure that a relink remains in place if you intend to carry out the merger.Slicky (talk) 14:08, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Scientific techniques

I'm not discouraging the potential project/portal (or whatever). I'm just saying that you raised it on a wrong page (heck, the title on that page says it's portal, yet that page is for WikiProject). If you want a discussion, head towards village pump OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 20:39, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mass spectrometry article categorization

Since the category Mass spectrometry is a subcategory of Scientific technique, any article in the Mass spectrometry category does not need to be in the Scientific techniques category. See WP:CAT and WP:SUBCAT. So Inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry‎ doesn't need to be in Scientific techniques since it is in Mass spectrometry. I also noticed that you put Field emission microscope into Scientific techniques when a better move might have been to put Category:Microscopes into Scientific techniques. I don't want to throw cold water on your scientific techniques effort, but be careful not to over categorize. --Kkmurray (talk) 22:54, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

If you don't want to throw water it would be nicer to state things without warnings such as "be careful not to ovecategorize." The warning to be careful did not enhance the message. It seems to me the urge to scold is often so great in Wikipedia interactions that the message gets lost. Are you saying categorize only in the lowest subcategory on Wikipedia in general? --Amaltheus (talk) 01:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

As I stated in the the village pump my categorization was very rough: I simple wanted to make sure I got all techniques covered somehow, so that we could later find them back more easily for proper organization. Some had no such category at all, others have tags that lead to categories that contain techniques but also other things. Sometimes it is the physical phenomenon, sometimes the instrument (the microscope rather than the -scopy) that gets categorized and that does not make things any easier to find. One of the things I would like to achieve is to come at a more sensible and less chaotic system of entry. I have been searching in wiki for a week or two now and I still discover useful bits and pieces here and there. It's a mess. Kkmurray.

Jcwf (talk) 04:16, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I did look at various categorizing schemes on Wikipedia. My thought is developing a series of sub-categories might also get you a better assortment of the techniques, and maybe others will want to edit within a subcategory. The techniques subcategories might be by the various things you suggest for the template. I might do Characterization techniques using ionizing radiation, Characterization techniques using optical light. --Amaltheus (talk) 07:35, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't mean to scold. Sorry if it came off that way to anyone. It was meant to be advice and encouragement. I think that organizing scientific techniques is a great idea. If you are not already aware, there are of a couple of related Wikiprojects: WikiProject Mass spectrometry, WikiProject Spectroscopy, and WikiProject Chemistry. If you need any help, peer review, etc., those are good places to go. Good luck. --Kkmurray (talk) 19:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)