Talk:Jürgen Klinsmann
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The man's name is Jürgen, not Jurgen. ;) Markalexander100 02:37, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Yes, but they don't have those funny dots in English :)) -217.237.32.69 20:11, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Funny dots? Umlauts, dear...
I wish we had umlauts in English -- they are cool! --Amcalabrese 03:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Is this the best pic we can find of klinsmann? pitiful
best performance since 2002? that sounds crazy since there hasnt been any other world cup ^^
What is with all the nonsense about diving? 2 of the related links convey nothing about diving and one of them goes to the "urban dictionary", hardly an erudite selection more fitting of trivia than anything other. Changing. Ernham 03:15, 7 August 2006 (UTC)Ernham
I am a Tottenham supporter and I think Jurgen Klinsmann was a fantastic player, but he was a diver. Just look back to when he was playing for Monaco and got Costacurta sent off against Milan, Costacurta was about 2 yards away from him and didn't touch him whatso-ever!!
[edit] the "wikidaily"
Wikipedia isn't a daily of life fo recent events. Can't believe that this page has 22 years of playing career on the same space that 2 years of coaching.
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- But then there are hundreds of players having their daily playing careers, but only 2 or 3, or so, of them in a life-time who might be called upon to helm their national team. Those are some other numbers to consider.
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- Still others would be some dates. Like the date the Internet reached critical mass, or the date Wikipedia started. I've found it to be pretty universal that--not just at Wikipedia--but everywhere online, that going back to certain dates becomes in some respect pre-historic and sparsely reported or simply neglected. Even if from books, there may be none for Klinsmann or many sports figures. I don't think this is a good thing, but it is a real limitation of these kinds of web-based projects, in many case.
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- One thing I found lacking in the article were some of the examples of Klinsmann's innovations in brigning in fitness trainers, experts on increasing foot speed, or even some of the unorthodox things like the sessions of table tennis or archery, or pyschologists. If these things go on to revolutionize German or even European soccer, then perhaps Klinsmann's contribution will have been much greater as a coach than as a player. It is too early to know how these things will play out yet, but my point is that just counting the years doesn't always translate into what parts of a career are significant or worth discussing in detail.
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- You get this all the time with writers or composers who were also teachers or conductors. They may have spent many years doing the latter but when you read about them in an encyclopedia that only gets a sentence or a phrase, often no more than a short paragraph. The former, on the other hand, may receive pages of attention.
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- Also, you can't assume the part you object to will always be there in that form. For example, if the Kilnsmann approach, now passed on to others, turns out to be something truly lasting, maybe it will get its own subpage and most of that material will be moved there in future years. So call what you see now a "wikiworkinprogress"! W.C. 21:31, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
According to the Chicago Tribune sport section, Mr. Klinsmann was also offer the position to coach the national team of Mexico. So, I think it's just fair to add it in the article because they added he was offer to coach the US national team.
[edit] Apprentice ?
The article claims Klinsman to be a "qualified baker's apprentice" ? That sounds quite misleading, since he actually completed his apprenticeship and passed the required exams. So his correct qualification (for bakery) would (in German) be "Bäckergeselle" which should translate to "journeyman baker" (since bakery is a traditional craft it has retained the traditional titles). More colloquial, he would be called "gelernter Bäcker" ("learned Baker", but within a context where "learned" is understood as to have completed a well regulated apprenticeship and passed an examination regulated by the craftsmen's chamber in that craft). So he is everything but an apprentice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.176.199.13 (talk) 16:01, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Goals
The article mentions Klinsmann scored 31 goals with Bayern Munich .. well thats partially correect if consider only the goals scored in Bundeslega 16 in season 95-96 and 15 in season 96-97 but in season 95-96 he scored 15 goals in Uefa cup also ... why is that not mentioned ?!!--Blain Toddi (talk) 11:07, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
