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Why was this article moved from Iyengar? Google returns 1520 hits for Aiyangar, (and asks "Did you mean "Iyengar"?), but returns 235,000 hits for Iyengar. According to Wikipedia policy, the most common English spelling should be used. Quadell (talk) (quiz)[[]] 17:01, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)

Aiyangar is phonetically correct (Iyengar is not). --Rajasekaran Deepak 19:11, 2004 Sep 19 (UTC)
A weak argument. By the same standard you could argue that "thumb" shouldn't have a "B" in it for phonological reasons. What do the others think? David Cannon 19:52, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I think, since Iyengar is the most common English form, and since one of the most famous Iyengars (B.K.S.) spells his name "Iyengar" when using Roman letters, that "Iyengar" should be the spelling in the title. Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 23:54, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

It could be mentioned in the first few lines of the article that "Aiyangar is the correct phonetic for Iyengar", but the article should still be Iyengar as that is where people are gonna come looking for. Similar correction should be made to Srinivasa Aiyangar Ramanujan. Kesava 00:37, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I'll change the spelling back, and I'll note in the introductory paragraph that "Aiyangar" is phonetically correct. Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 19:07, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Social Group?

[edit] POV

The last para states that "In addition to their earlier occupations, Iyengars today have diversified into a variety of fields—their strengths particularly evident in the fields of law,mass media, science, engineering, mathematics and computer science." Do you have any statistical studies to prove that Iyengars are a substantial chunk in these professions compared to other castes? Arunkrishnan 11:52, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

I guess the point is majority of iyengars belong to these professions.It does not in anyway convey the converse.So let it be the way it is user:Anonymous16:34, 18 July 2006

Would this be more better classified under Category:Social groups of India instead of Category:Indian culture Alren 17:31, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

There are some other serious POV issues with this article. I just removed several instances of descriptions of various people as "renowned" or "well-known" (peacock terms). Is there a need for a POV tag to be added? Ketsuekigata (talk) 20:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] possible vandalism

User:220.236.152.72 made major edits to this article. They should be checked carefully. He/she has just been blocked for exceeeding 3-revert rule after repeatedly making major edits (mostly deletions) to topics in areas related to this, ignoring requests to discuss, creating separate POV versions of articles under slightly different names, etc. In this case (counter to pattern he/she has largely inserted material (although there are also deletions). Changes just might be accurate, I suggest especially checking any deletions. I won't be watching this page, so if you need to ask me something further, please ask on my talk page. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:39, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)


[edit] More vandalism ?

There have been a few major deletions done to this article over the past few days. Are they genuine or the acts of a vandal ?

I am not too unhappy to see the text about incarnations go as it was irrelevant to the article, but a number of good entries in the list of famous iyengars have gone too. Tintin 14:01, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Too many professors

Is there any reason for keeping them ? They are not known outside perhaps a very small circle. Not the sort of people who would qualify for a 'famous people' list. Tintin 4 July 2005 13:35 (UTC)

Moved the professors

  • Professor S.R. Srinivasa Varadhan - Mathematician & Fellow of the Royal Society
  • Professor Mudumbai NARASIMHAN - Mathematician & Fellow of the Royal Society (1996)
  • Professor Madabusi RAGHUNATHAN - Mathematician & Fellow of the Royal Society (2000)
  • Professor Conjeeveram SESHADRI - Mathematician & Fellow of the Royal Society (1988)
  • Professor Mandyam SRINIVASAN - Fellow of the Royal Society (2001)
  • Rangaswamy Srinivasan - Inventor of Ablative Photodecomposition (APD) - Using Excimer Laser for Eye surgery
  • Professor Cadambathur Tiruvenkatacharlu Rajagopal - Mathematician, Ramanujan Institute of Mathematics
  • Professor Chidambaram Padmanabhan Ramanujam - Mathematician, TIFR

Tintin 5 July 2005 04:34 (UTC)

Tintin: These people above are very well known people depending on who you talk to. Same applies to a whole lot of other celebrities. The list was added by me after verifying the facts and with the intent of showcasing this community's contribution to academics (Mathematics in particular). Please reinstate the update. Thanks

Reverted the changes. Not very convinced, though :-) Tintin 5 July 2005 17:20 (UTC)
Not that it is terribly harmful to have them in there, but if you go along the lines of being well known in a few academic circles, then the Famous People list in many articles about communities, such as Iyer, should be greatly expanded. One unrelated thing is, why are some of the last names capitalized? I think it stands out and disrupts the flow of the text. Adityan 17:36, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Are they Iyengars?

I have removed the ISRO chief Kasturirangan from the list.He is a Palakkad Iyer. I am not sure about Gen.K.Sundarji.Can any one clarify on this

Harishsubramanian 07:07, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] When should Vedanta desikar be on the list

Among all the people in the list Vedanta Desikar was the Greatest.But the rest of the people belonged to the modern times.Either someone should prepare an Iyengar list for all time,which must include people like Ramanujacharya or have only modern Iyengars.And I would like to put them on a separate list.Spiritual teachers need to be mentioned separately.

Harishsubramanian 07:16, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mathas or Ashramas

Shouldn't there be a mention of the Mathas/Ashramas of followed by the Iyengars? Let me list the mathas I know :

  • Andavan Ashrama
  • Ahobila Matha
  • Parakala Matha

[edit] Parthasarathi Ayyangar

S.Parthasarathi Ayyangar ML,IP has currently been put up for deletion. Please comment in this page if you are familiar with this person. Tintin 10:35, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Most Priests are Iyengars?

The article states that most priests in South Indian temples are Iyengars. Given that there are probably more temples to Shiva and Devi in South India than Narayana, I don't see how that can be true. The only reason I'm not cutting it out is I have no proof to back up my point either. It is something that is in need of attention, though. Adityan 17:29, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I have removed Rengarajan Kumaramangalam from the list. He belongs to Gounder Caste. I think Srikanth (Present Tamil Actor is Iyengar). His name is Srikanth Krishnamachari. Somebody can clarify that and add his name. Ravi

[edit] AHANA & ESHA Iyengars?

Probably Piyengars - Punjabi Iyengars!!!

[edit] "related groups" info removed from infobox

For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 17:12, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unverified

The list contains names such as Chinnasamy (which Brahmins dont usually keep) and even included T.A.Sekar (which is obviously a Saivite name which Vaishnavite Iyengars dont keep). The list needs to be verified and more references included.

[edit] Demographics

Could someone produce links to sources on population of Iyengars??? -Ravichandar 02:38, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] citations??

this article is gradually expanding without providing enough/no citation , inspite of placing multiple tags the editors who add information seem to fail to provide enough notability nor citation's .--@ the $un$hine . (talk) 12:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


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