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Islam was NOT founded by Muhammad. Muhammad as the founder of Islam is NEVER taught in Islam. Muhammad is rather considered "The Last Messenger of God". Islam also believes in the earlier Prophets like Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus. Believing that Muhammad is the Founder of Islam is contradictory to this doctrine. Among the main causes of this confusion is the relience on non-Muslim sources for Islamic doctrines. islamic law stipulates that non-Muslims can never be an authority on Islam nor are they allowed to teach Islam. In fact, even ignorant Muslims cannot teach Islam. Bedejim 12:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I know it was only a stub to open the page, but we must be careful not to label everything 'arabic' as 'Islamic'. I am no expert on Islamic mythology, but suppose that for instance Alladin and Arabian Nights are 'Arabic' instead of 'Islamic'--TK

Excellent point! I agree 100 percent. I hope that those who know more will improve the page -- it sure does need improvement! -- Cayzle

I've moved this page from Islamic Mythology to Arabic mythology, not because I consider them the same but because they are clearly different. Most of the stuff here is Arabic rather than Islamic. I would recommend that we create a separate Islamic mythology article as soon as we have enough material to go in it. DJ Clayworth 21:28, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I think it is a good idea to define Islamic mythology clearly , the current version opens with the sentence Islamic mythology includes... and puts the restriction of ...help explanation of Islamic beliefs and we find this remark in the article :

While some of these stories are associated in the mind of the Westerner with Islam, they do not for the most part illustrate the principles of Islam. In fact many of them predate the introduction of Islam, and contain elements contrary to Islam, and are therefore not Islamic mythology. which is based on the restriction mentioned above and seems inapropriate..

I am not sure what the best definition can be ,"mythology developed in Islamic cultures" seems good, a totaly different definitions would be mythology developed in a strictly Islamic context , which would cover a comparatively narrow range and include mostly Sufi mythology and elaboration of Qur'anic stories, defining the term appropriately specialy clarifying wether Islamic means associated with Islamic cultures or Islam as a religeon , helps prevent edits based merely on personal opinions.Pasha 01:58, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

For a start , defined Islamic mythology and did some edits , I hope my edits was in direction of improving the article.Pasha 06:28, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

There is no such thing as Islamic Mythology. In fact, I detest the world Islamic, as it not mentioned in the Quran or Hadith. The proper term is Muslim. I am petitioning for the entire site to be changed to Arabic Mythology, from Islamic(sic) Mythology.Tuf-Kat

You detest the word "Islamic" because it is not mentioned in the Hadith? That's probably because it is an English adjective, while the Hadith is in Arabic. "Islamic mythology" is not the same as "Arabian mythology" in the same way "Muslim" is not equivalent to "Arab". dab (𒁳) 17:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is the Qur'an "mythology"?

I have listed the following articles from the "Islamic Mythology category" at:

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Religion#List_of_articles_where_mythology_cats_are_potentially_problematic

It seems that these concepts are taken from the Quran, and since there are definitely significant numbers of people today who believe the Quran is a sacred book, they would not share the POV of some that these topics are to be classified as "Islamic mythology". Please see the above link for the general discussion. Thanks, Blockinblox 14:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the above comments that there's a definite confusion here between "Arabic" and "Islamic". However, as to the current point, the fact that people believe a story is sacred does not disqualify it from being a myth. As used by folklorists, the term myth means "sacred story". In popular usage, "myth" means "falsehood" or "lie", but in many scholarly contexts, "myth" means a story whose tellers believe it to be anything but false. See a subsection of the Religion and mythology article [here] for more info. --Phatius McBluff 21:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I am curious if Muslims would feel okay if we use the mythology explanation box on the page (or made one specific to "mythology and Islam". The general one looks like this (see right) and reads "In its broadest academic sense, the word "myth" simply means a traditional story, whether true or false. (—OED, Princeton Wordnet) Unless otherwise noted, the words "mythology" and "myth" are here used for sacred and traditional narratives, with no implication that any belief so embodied is itself either true or false."

Articles about Mythology:
In its broadest academic sense, the word "myth" simply means a traditional story, whether true or false. (—OED, Princeton Wordnet) Unless otherwise noted, the words "mythology" and "myth" are here used for sacred and traditional narratives, with no implication that any belief so embodied is itself either true or false.