Talk:Ipso facto
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Ipso facto is defined as a Latin phrase. While it is of Latin origin it is now in English dictionaries, and I suspect in dictionaries of other languages. How can we clearly state this?
- I think the page makes it clear. —Casey J. Morris 22:13, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Use in ICJ
Statute of the International Court of Justice, June 26, 1945 "2. The states parties to the present Statute may at any time declare that they recognize as compulsory ipso facto and without special agreement, in relation to any other state accepting the same obligation, the jurisdiction of the Court in all legal disputes concerning: a. the interpretation of a treaty; b. any question of international law; c. the existence of any fact which, if established, would constitute a breach of an international obligation; d. the nature or extent of the reparation to be made for the breach of an international obligation. "
Not sure how to work this in but it is a good exapmle of ipso facto in the context of an international text. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarterus (talk • contribs) 18:39, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Italics and Sentence Structure.
When writing in English, the convention is to italicise words that are not English, especially Latin words.
In addition, you don't say "the marriage would be void ipso facto", but "ipso facto, the marriage would be void", or "the marriage would be ipso facto void". Hullaballoo84 16:54, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Ipso facto" versus "ipse facto"
I am currently reading Hegel's text The Philosophy of History -- specifically, the translation by J. Sibree (New York: Dover, 1956). At various places in the text, Hegel uses "ipse facto" rather than "ipso facto" as in: "In agriculture itself is involved, ipse facto, the cessation of a roaming life" (p. 101). What is the difference, if any, between ipso facto and ipse facto? Drval 19:08, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- My latin is limited (and very rusty) having only done two years at school around a decade ago but I believe ipso is itself while ipse is himself. I'm not quite sure though how that fits with your quote though...Azo bob (talk) 17:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Question...
Perhaps someone could remember if this phrase was used in a movie? tv show? I remember a character saying it, however google has been less than helpful.
- It was used in Justice League, Animal Crackers, Fierce Creatures, and The Man With Two Brains. That's all I could find on IMDB for quotes. 129.64.141.43 01:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Also, I just heard it on the "There's Something about Paulie" Family Guy episode. That's really wierd. 129.64.141.43 02:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- its also in Camp Lazlo which is why i came here to see if it was real71.131.33.187 18:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- Bart Simpson says "Ipso fatso" in Bart the Mother --Closedmouth 14:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- Jon Stewart uses the phrase often on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart N.f.vd.boogaard 15:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
