Talk:Independent ministries of the Seventh-day Adventist Church

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[edit] AFM; David Koresh

Shouldn't AFM (Adventist Frontier Missions; see their website) be listed here? I'm not sure where, as I don't know the exact relationship between it and the Adventist church, but it should certainly be mentioned.

Since David Koresh was a person, not an organization or ministry, I don't think he should be listed here, whether or not he was "non-supportive." Since this is "Independent ministries of the Seventh-day Adventist Church," I don't think he would belong here anyway, because he was ex-Adventist when he became notable. Additionally, I would not consider the Branch Davidians (if they are still an organization) an independent ministry of the Adventist church either, since they were in no way affiliated (at least not organizationally). Something closer to a "non-supportive" independent ministry would be Our Firm Foundation, though it is/was (I'm not sure) an organization within the church and has/had its own share of problems. --Cromwellt|Talk 02:59, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good News Unlimited?

I think there needs to be more thought on what constitutes an independant ministry. GoodNews Unlimited is actually a separate denomination that arose out of the Des Ford/ Glacier View situation in the early-eighties. JCrocombe 13:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Good point, further clarity is needed when defining an independent ministry. My rationale for including it originally was that GNU is attended (and are members of) by many full-fledged Seventh-day Adventists and GNU traces its lineage through the Adventist church. I don't know, would para-church be a better description? I might add (some what tongue in cheek) that Hartland could be classified as an separate denomination, but few would. Cheers, -Fermion 04:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "HopeTV"

Is HopeTV the same as The Hope Channel? If so, please create a redirect between the two. -Colin MacLaurin 10:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

It looks like they are the same. What I don't understand is why it is on this page. I thought that Hope was an official channel. -Fermion 08:24, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmmmm...valid point. I guess it can be deleted. --Maniwar (talk) 17:33, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I am deleting Hope Channel from this page. If it actually is an independent ministry, then someone please replace it. Colin MacLaurin 05:44, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

HopeTV/The Hope Channel is an official TV channel of the Seventh-Day Adventist church. (http://new.hopetv.org/about-us/our-history-and-future/) However, Hope International is an independant organisation that is not officially connected to the S.D.A. church, holding viewpoints questionable in the minds of Seventh-Day Adventists. (http://www.adventistreview.org/2000-1538/hope-international.html). The similarity of these two names, The Hope Channel and Hope International, is sometimes a source of confusion.202.127.9.235 (talk) 10:42, 17 December 2007 (UTC)