Talk:Huang Chao

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Changed a misattribution; wang xianzhi of tang is not the same as wang xianzhi of 500 years previous. Changed a dubious last sentence. Changed jiedushi mention for ease of understanding. Trivia such as the growing pre rebellion policy of using foreigners when possible in the military can be interesting on several levels, for example for the reason that the policy was implemented was precisely to prevent just such a rebellion, a dubious move. Or that Gao Xianzhi was the son of a conquered Korean general from the Korean campaigns, or that Tang society of the time was cosmopolitan and expansive, or etc etc etc. However as it was written it made for an ambiguous sentence. I have no wish to be rewriting articles at this time or even to revise this one into more grammatically standard english, as it works well enough and i'm pretty tired, so we'll leave it at that.69.121.103.175 20:27, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Factual Accuracy

I have a few issues with the factual accuracy of this page. I did not make any edits pending a discussion of these particular issues.

1. Huang Chao didn't bring down the Tang Dynasty. He certainly weakened it, but didn't bring it down. This could be attributed to poor wording.

2. I have seen no evidence that he formed his own Dynasty, especially one by the name of Qi. There were several Qi kingdoms in Chinese history. The one I have seen evidence for in the time period closest to this was a couple of decades later when a short-lived Qi State established itself in Shaanxi in 907 with the collapse of the Tang. This is 27 years after the claim in the article of 880.

3. Turkic should be changed to Shatuo Turk for clarity's sake. I am currently working on a Shatuo Turk article.

I already have prepared alternative wording for all of these issues, but I will wait. If a week goes by without any comments, I will go ahead and alter the article.

David A. Graff in Medieval Chinese Warfare. 300-900 notes that Huang Chao proclaimed himself emperor, but does not say what name he chose for his dynasty. Fornadan (t) 19:21, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Then feel free to note that with the source, but it seems inappropriate to assume that it was called the Qi Dynasty, unless it is a different one that arose on Shaanxi with the fall of the Tang.Ludahai 01:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)