Talk:Hoklo people
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Hoklo (福佬, POJ: Hok-ló) is sometimes also written as the phonetically similar 鶴佬 (Ho̍h-ló), 河洛 (Hô-lo̍k), 學佬 (ha̍k-láu). It looks like the Ban-lam version of this article has some explanations. Oniows 13:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hokkien = Hoklo?
I have noticed this mass renaming of Hokkien as Hoklo. Being a Hokkien myself, I have not even heard of this term. May I know if this is factually accurate, because Hokkien means Fujian in Mandarin, and refers more to the Mannanese speaking populance?--Huaiwei 05:07, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
- As far as I know the two terms more or less refer to the same people and language. Hoklo is more commonly used in Taiwan, whereas Hokkien is common in Southeast Asia. Taiwanese people won't identify the Taiwanese language as Hokkien, but Hoklo (which is also written as 河洛). In Cantonese-speaking areas Hoklo (usually pronounced as 學佬 or 鶴佬) and 福建人 (Fujianese people) are equally common to refer to the people, but probably Teochiu people don't identify themselves as 福建人. — Instantnood 07:49, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
Me either, I haven't heard this term used elsewhere except in Taiwan and Hong Kong. It is a cantonese loan word to describe Fujian people in Guangdong and Hong Kong and I think some people have used it as the ONLY term to describe people originating from Fujian. In South East Asia, Hokkien is the word used to describe people with Fujian heritage.--Visik 05:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I think it is proper to describe people originating from Fujian as either Minnan (Hokkien) or Minbei (Fuzhou).
I think it's probably okay for this page to refer to "Hoklo people" because it specifically refers to the population of Taiwan, and should use the name they use for themselves. There could possibly be a separate article about "Hokkien people" as an ethnos, but I don't know enough about them to write it. Grace Note 04:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Aboriginal ancestry
I think that the statement about this needs sourcing. At base, Hoklos wouldn't seem to have much ancestry in common with the Austronesian Taiwanese at all. Can we have a source for the "undocumented marriages" and maybe rewrite this sentence to be clearer about what we are meaning? Grace Note 04:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
