Talk:History of the Netherlands (1939-1945)

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• Article: nl:Nederland in de Tweede Wereldoorlog
• Corresponding English-language article: Netherlands in World War II
• Worth doing because: Not well covered in English wiki.
• Originally Requested by: Peking Duck 21:31, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
• Other notes: I may do it myself some day.

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I have changed "preamble" to "prelude" because the former only refers to documents and texts (e.g. the introduction to a constitution), and not to events. --Garethhamilton 22:20, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Rise of Nazism 2 Choice of illustrations 3 Jewish Refugee Internment Camps 4 Two edits 5 The Germans shipped Dutch to Britain? 6 Home demolition 7 Some tidying up 8 Fair use rationale for Image:4SSNL-PGDA1.jpg

[edit] Rise of Nazism

Sander1234 changed The poverty caused by the Great Depression helped the rise of Nazism in the Netherlands, saying that it didn't help the rise of nazism, adding that they got few votes. But that doesn't mean it didn't rise. That's determined by how much nazism there was before, and as far as I know nazism (at least under that name) didn't even exist earlier. So I changed that back, but left the addition. DirkvdM 06:49, 3 October 2005 (UTC) Somewhere it says almost no dutch fought on the side of teh germans. Thats a ridiculous falsification.. the ditch provided teh biggest group of non german combatants in the german army. Not many survivded though. Also teh statement most dutch formed one front against the germans is false. 95% of (military) police and civil authorities have collaborated with teh germans. Often handing lists of jews eg. Notwithstanding all this, resistance against fascism has also been strong and involved most of the rest of the population, esp. the lower classes. Gl with this correction that offcial dutch history won't like. --81.191.62.33 (talk) 23:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Choice of illustrations

Currently the article has four illustrations: one of a ruined Rotterdam, one of a statue of/for Anne Frank, and two related to collaboration with the occupying force. Somehow this seems totally out of whack for this article? 81.191.62.33 (talk) 23:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish Refugee Internment Camps

According to my history books, Jews that flew Nazi Germany to the Netherlands, were taken into internment camps. Which were happily taken in by the occupying Nazis. The text states rather unnoticed: "an existing internment camp for immigrants". Which brings me to something else. Where I live, we believe the Dutch were somewhat 'less active' in the resistance movements, at least much less then this article and the dutch resistance article mentions. But since it's a perception, it may violate the NPOV, so I'm not editing or something.

[edit] Two edits

Please clarify 'Nazi Germany's occupation of the Rhineland' in the Interbellum section. The Rheinland was, is and always has been a Land or province in Germany on its border with France, i.e., in Germany, part of Germany, Nazi-era or otherwise. One doesn't 'occupy' one's own country. The Treaty of Versailles had a French-inspired portion that said Germany could not station troops along the border, which Germany then did, but that's not an 'occupation.' Last section on reprisals--Anne Frank and her family were in fact Germans, from Frankfurt am Main, the father having moved his business from Germany to Amsterdam. Interesting to wonder if they then would have been deported by the Dutch post-war.72.81.16.200 00:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I've tidied up the misleading comments on the Rhineland. Norvo 17:04, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Germans shipped Dutch to Britain?

"A German airborne landing at The Hague, intended to capture the Dutch royal family and the government failed and the troops that had not been killed were captured and shipped to Britain " —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.149.78.217 (talk) 06:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC).

The German airborn troops were defeated by the Dutch, the surviving German troops were shipped to Britain by the Dutch.Rex 17:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Home demolition

I've revised some portions of this article (which appeared to have been written by non-native English speakers), but I'm confused about some of these figures. Here is a current portion from the article:

Some towns, such as Scheveningen, were evacuated because of this. In the Hague, 3,200 houses were demolished and 2,594 were dismantled. 20,000 houses were cleared, and 65,000 people were forced to move.

Is there some kind of distinction between a "demolished" house and a "dismantled" one, or are these two difference sources? In other words, were there 5,794 homes taken down in The Hague, or just 3,200 (or 2,594)?

Also, is the latter figure (20,000) for the Netherlands as a whole? Thanks for anyone who can help. Funnyhat 21:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Someone vandalised the article.

[edit] Some tidying up

I tidied up the statements about the Rhineland and also about hyperinflation in Germany. The German Mark had been stablilized in 1923-24. The severe depression of the early 1930s in Germany led to falling prices (as one would expect), not inflation. Norvo 17:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:4SSNL-PGDA1.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)