Talk:Henry (VII) of Germany

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I've made a few changes while adding links, but the only one of particular note is changing "rectorship" to "regency". "Rector" is (AIUI) Latin for "Regent" and Runciman says that Charles of Anjou in 1257 "acquired from Raymond of Les Baux, Count of Orange, the rights as regent of the Kingdom of Arles", Kingdom of Arles=Kingdom of Burgundy. In this case it seems to have been a sort of hereditary bailli-ship; but "regent" is the correct title, as best I can tell. User:Choess 02:44, 30 June 2005

All right, I guess your right about the regency thing. However I linked "kingdom of Burgundy" not to "kings of Burgundy", since the list stops with Conrad II taking over, but rather to County of Burgundy, which deals with the history in that period. The thing with Franche-Comte is, that the regency of the kingdom brought with it the rule in a part of the kingdom my atlas calls "Rectorate of Burgundy", which later turns into the Franche-Comte. Str1977 30 June 2005 22:56 (UTC)

Sounds good for now. Someone (me, I suppose) should really do some research on this and write a better article on the Kingdom of Burgundy and what regions were still technically part of it after its absorption by the Holy Roman Empire. Choess July 1, 2005 00:30 (UTC)

Franche-Comté had its own counts already in time of Henry (VII) - they were then called as palatine counts of Burgundy, therefore I greatly doubt that "rectorat of Burgundy" actually covered that dominion. And, it is absolutely wrong to link Henry (VII) to county of Burgundy, as he certsinly was not such count, and as there was another, recognized count at that time. 217.140.193.123 1 July 2005 09:56 (UTC)

Dear 217..., if you know more about this, than please post improvements.

I base my connection to FC on a map in my "historical atlas", edited by Walter Leisering, published 1997 by Cornelsen, page 47. Here we have a map of "central and western europe from the 11th to the 1th century". We have the kingdom of arelat and inside of this a territory labeled "Rekt. Burgund" - in exactly the same place where later Franche-Comte appears.

Now, if I'm wrong, please provide a better explanation.

Nobody said he was "Count of Burgundy"

I put the link to "County of Burgundy", since there is not entry for "Kingdom of Burgundy", the entry "Kings of Burgundy" stops with Conrad II acceding to the Burgundian crown, while the "County of Burgundy" is part of the Kingdom at that time and the entry covers events from the time in question. Str1977 1 July 2005 11:19 (UTC)

Dear 217... and all, I retract. You are right and my atlas was wrong or misleading. The rector (I return to that term because it can be understood in English and is a rather dubious term at that time as well) was the representative of the king in the kingdom of Burgundy. It became a heritage of the Zähringer family and in regard of a territory was based not in the Franche-Comte but east of the Jura mountains (today's Switzerland). I have added a chapter about the rectorate to king of Burgundy and linked to this. Granted, it is now more of a Kingdom of Burgundy entry, but so be it. Str1977 1 July 2005 23:39 (UTC)

[edit] Title

Does the title of this article fit with WP naming style? -Acjelen 23:10, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] External link

I've added an external link to an interesting article about Henry's remains. He was seriously ill with leprosy by the time of his death. Silverwhistle 20:03, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] His children

This genealogical table (http://www.bartleby.com/67/german03.html) shows him with two sons. What happened to them? His wife's article says she died childless, and Conradin is said to be the last legitimate Hohenstaufen. So, is the genealogical table wrong? SamEV 11:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)