Talk:Heather Kuzmich
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This article was nominated for deletion on December 9, 2007. The result of the discussion was keep. |
[edit] Deletion
why is it being requested for deletion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smartie.Pantz4 (talk • contribs)
- As I warned you on Talk:America's Next Top Model, Cycle 9, people are questioning her notability. If you want to contribute to the discussion, go here. Right now it looks about evenly split, so I don't know how it's going to work out. Eatcacti (talk) 22:08, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mistakes
Heather has ADHD. She was also diagnosed with Asperger's at thirteen-years-old, not fifteen, as stated by Tyra and herself during the first episode. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.26.191.38 (talk) 22:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Heather is not a fashion model, she has fashion modeling experience but she isn't one. She is a graphic art student.
She did not just have Asperger's Syndrome, she had ADD (or ADHD, I forget).
America's Next Top Model category is a big block of mangled text.
"Week after week Kuzmich and fellow model Jenah Doucette took the two strongest pictures." Cite that with Tyra's saying in that episode.
"Kuzmich got lost, failed to impress the designer, and was disqualified because of her late return." She didn't fail to impress the designer. Heather said in an interview that Flora Zeta loved her look and she would be great for Chinese modeling but what she needed to work on was her walk.
"Many were angry when Doucette did not offer Kuzmich a ride back, but she explained that it was against the rules." It's unneeded information.
"Heather Kuzmich was eliminated." That should be "Kuzmich was eliminated in the same week."
"She was voted "CoverGirl of the Week" eight times while on the show." If you really want to, you should note that she received that "award" the most number of times of her cycle and that she has the second highest amount of both consecutive and collective CoverGirl of the Week wins. Sireafi (talk) 03:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- You should make the changes you feel are necessary. I would only disagree about her not being a model - she is. "Student" and "model" are not mutually exclusive categories. She may not have had much experience modeling, but she's still a model. Just like someone who has only written one book is still considered a writer. Eatcacti (talk) 03:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Deletion
The following text was moved here from Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion, where it was posted by User:24.12.117.102. I think it's better placed here. --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:34, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
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I belive this page should be deleted. Perhaps it might come across as my own personal opinon, but I'm going to throw it out there anyways. It's of debate wether or not Heather has Asperger's Syndrome. It also is a concern to other females with Asperger's Syndrome, that if Heather Kuzmich becomes the face of female Asperger's Syndrome that she will give an unrealistic view of what female Asperger's Syndrome people are like.
Most female Asperger's Syndrome people would never model, because they would be too shy and or introverted. Also, as is true for most females in general, they don't look like models. It's bad enough to try and attain the rediculous standards of beauty expected by Neurotypical/Normal people. When people first see someone like Heather Kuzmich and identify her with females who have Asperger's Syndrome, they will expect us to match up to her image.
It is not only incredulous of her, to think that she is representative of women with Asperger's Syndrome by any leap of the imagination. It is egotistical of Heather to think first of how being a spokesperson for Asperger's Syndrome will benifit her, vs how it might do more harm than good. Michelle Dawson is more of the kind of representative of Asperger's Syndrome that is appropriate. She's intelligent, she has more to her credit than going on TV and looking pretty.
I'm sure, as with alot of problems I've had in this discussion on various Asperger's forums, people will assume "Well she just doesn't like her cause she's pretty." Her being pretty doesn't have much to do with it, it's that she is representative of 1% of females with Asperger's Syndrome, if that. She is pretty darn close to normal. It was suggested she might even not have Asperger's Syndrome, but ADHD. I think ADHD might be more on the mark. Finally, she never really has made a statement about why she wants to be a spokesperson for Asperger's Syndrome, other than she wants to be a spokesperson. I mean, aside from the fact that we live in a society who would give Heather pretty much anything just as a reward for being pretty, you need more than just being on TV to represent thousands of people who have been generally rejected from society.
I'm sorry, but representing us while looking like a Barbie doll, just won't cut it. I also am sorry that most people with Asperger's Syndrome, who are males, can't look past how hot she is to see that she is just as much a representative of who female Asperger's Syndrome people are, as Cameron Diaz. What most female Asperger's Syndrome women want, is a representative who is herself. I mean, someone who isn't polished up to the perfect expectation of societial acceptance. Someone who doesn't wear makeup, like most Asperger's Syndrome women. Someone who likes video games and is good at them. I don't know about Heather's skills at playing video games, but these days saying "I want to create video games" could mean anything from the next action opus, to a cutesy-wutsy online game about opening a resturant. Someone who understands the struggles that come with living in a society that doesn't accept them, because they refuse to waste their time trying to be someone else's ideal.
I just don't see someone who's been on Top Model, being able to comprehend that.
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- Thanks to this anonymous user for posting her thoughts. I think some of her points are legitimate criticisms of society's attitude to women with Asperger's. However, the article here, at present, seems pretty well sourced. In other words, this article is a good summary of other reliable sources, and that's what Wikipedia sets out to be. It might not represent the world as we would like it to be, but it represents what currently is. Please take another look at Asperger syndrome and some of the other articles linked from there; you might find a good place for some of your observations. --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
--5th runner-up==
5th runner up is equivalent to 6th place, so she couldn't be considered the 5th runner up, as she came in 5th place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.69.250.47 (talk) 21:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
