Talk:Have Gun – Will Travel
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[edit] Interwiki Links
This article should link to Gene Roddenberry as Gene Roddenberry worked on Have Gun, Will Travel as a writer, winning a Writer's Guild Award.
[edit] radio show?
Wasn't there an earlier radio show that preceeded the television show? I think I've read that there was one in the late 40s or early 50s. I'll try to research it.... Hayford Peirce 16:17, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
The radio show came after the tv show, but should be included. I'll add it. Rick Norwood 20:30, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] article title
The name of the program was "Have Gun — Will Travel" with a dash rather than a comma. Is there a problem with using a dash in a title?
- Not any more as of a few months ago, when Mediawiki 1.5 was introduced. I have moved the article title. -- Curps 17:19, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
- See Talk:Have_Gun_–_Will_Travel#En_dashed below. Wakedream (talk) 06:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rifled barrel in a pistol!? Big Deal
Did the series really make a big deal of a six-shooter with a rifled barrel?? All six-shooters had rifled barrels. To find pistols *without* rifled barrels you have to go way back to early single shot muzzle-loaders. Perhaps the writer means that the pistol had a screw-on RIFLE-length barrel (ie, an extra long interchangable barrel) Sbharris 23:41, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- No, I do not remember any mention of a pistol with a rifled barrel, only of a "hand crafted" pistol. Rick Norwood 12:55, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Sbharris is right. Nearly all pistols manufactured after the Mexican-American War had rifled barrels, and all handguns manufactured during and after the Civil War were rifled. The only way to have a non-rifled pistol was to have it custom made, but since rifling made the weapon more accurate, why would anyone want to? If mention was made of his pistols' rifled barrels (and Rick Norwood doesn't remember any such mention) perhaps it meant to refer to some new form of precision rifling. That might indicate Paladin's guns were a cut above the norm in terms of accuracy and craftsmanship, but I'm supposing without benefit of facts. 12.22.250.4 20:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- In the first episode, Paladin shows his custom revolver to someone or other and says, "Notice the rifled barrel, a rarity in a hand weapon." (With an unrifled handgun you'd be lucky to hit anything unless at very short range, as I said in my blog upon seeing that episode.) It's not mentioned in the next twelve episodes. —Tamfang 00:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Paladin may well have said "rifled barrel" in the first episode. However, it's also possible he said "rifle barrel." His pistol did have an unusually long barrel, which I believe would tend to increase its accuracy (I'm not even close to being an expert on firearms). I'll check it out, unless someone else beats me to the draw. Wakedream (talk) 19:19, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Hey Boy?
The article's header section cites the character both as "known only as Hey Boy" and then also gives his real name. I believe this needs to reconciled. TheHYPO 01:03, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Also, I think that paragraph needs to be looked at for POV. As it reads now, it suggests that calling Hey Boy "Hey Boy" is an example of cultural insensitivity out of character for cosmopolitan Paladin. However, the fact that Hey Boy tells another character to call him "Hey Boy" instead of his real name makes this a very unsafe assumption -- maybe Hey Boy told Paladin to call him that too! I would try to fix this myself, but I have yet to see the episode where Hey Boy's real name of Kim Chang is revealed. -- Antaeus Feldspar 00:27, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
As well, is it factual that this was culturally insenstive at the time? Sure it's considered insensitive now, but at the time it's taking place (and/or at the time it was filmed) would this have been considered insensitive? I'm not even sure what it means or why it's insensitive? Is it a known racial term or something? I've never heard of it outside of this show... TheHYPO 21:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, that's sort of my field, so I'll try to answer. I recently watched a DVD of the episode, mentioned in the article, in which Paladin enters the Chinese American community of the time to help his friend "Hey Boy," and "Hey Boy" for once drops his servile playacting, revealing himself as a man of respect in that community. A fine episode. It made clear that Paladin always took Hey Boy's exaggerated deferentiality as a joke on the white world; which it was. GJ Leonard, SFSU, Editor in Chief, The Asian Pacific American Heritage: a Companion to Literature and Arts (Routledge.) Profhum (talk) 05:28, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] movie version
what should we do regarding the movie version, starring eminem? hope its named differently and can be a seperate article with a link back? --andrew 22:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- As of now, the possible movie starring Eminem has been added, as has the now abandoned proposal to make a movie starring John Travolta. If the Eminem movie is actually made, it will likely need its own article. Wakedream (talk) 07:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I think any reference to the movie with Eminem should be excluded as he will be a disgrace to the memory of the show.
- What you feel isn't really important. This is an encyclopedia; if the movie exists and is factually related to this show, it should be included. Your opinion of what constitutes a disgrace of the show doesn't form what gets put on wikipedia TheHYPO 03:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Furthermore, the article does state that it would be set in contemporary times, allowing for some liberties--within reason one would hope--to be taken with the character. So long as the basic traits remain, that should be the important point. Eventually, as more details surface re: the movie, I imagine it would get its own page. Lenny 20:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Under The Trivia Category for Have Gun Will Travel, there is erroneous listing. The theme song was sung by Johnny Western.
The user above me is completely ignorant. This movie version should not be made because it would be disgraceful to the original series. Until this is confirmed that there will be a "movie" if one could be inclined to call it so, any mention of it should be removed. 24.31.111.166 02:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The lawsuit
As it stands, the article unequivocally states that the show was based on the act of the country fair performer referred to here as Paladin, apparently because he eventually won his trademark infringement suit. So far as I know, the producers of the show have never admitted such wrongdoing, nor did the court establish it, and there is reason to doubt it. Whether Mr. Da Costa (the performer's real name) developed the whole Paladin shtick before the show existed or whether he increasingly copied the show's character in his act and decided to sue a few decades later when the chronology was hard to establish, I don't know, but the suit his heirs won, as opposed to the suits he lost during his lifetime, was based on trademarks he quietly took out in the 1970s and CBS carelesssly failed to pre-empt or challenge. Such documentation as I have for this, easily found on Google, is not good enough for Wikipedia; but neither is the current version. We should get the facts. 66.241.73.241 11:02, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
I regretfully removed the entire section, The Real Paladin?, as it's almost word-for-word the same as what's on Have Gun -- Will Travel, which claims to be the original site for the series (it may be; I don't know). I think some information about it could be added back in, especially with a reliable source or two. I may do that later if someone else doesn't do it first. Wakedream (talk) 18:48, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
- I just did a Google search for "victor de costa" and "have gun" and it got me only 45 hits, only 17 of them shown on the first try (the others it called very similar). From a quick glance, it appeared that most or even all of them were quoting or paraphrasing each other, and were either fan sites, spam, or Wikipedia clones. When I did a search of English language pages only, I got only five hits. I wonder now if this story is a hoax. Anyone find anything else? Wakedream (talk) 19:03, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] En dashed
I might be getting trivial here, but the title was written several different ways in this article. While it appears on Paladin's business card as "Have Gun Will Travel," and some sources for the radio series seem to render it as "Have Gun, Will Travel," neither of these is how I've seen it appear in the TV series itself. It was often (or always – I don't yet have every season on DVD) rendered as
"HAVE GUN-
WILL TRAVEL."[1]
In Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Em_dashes, it says either an Em dash without a space or an En dash with a space before and after is acceptable in this type of usage (see subsection "Spaced en dashes as an alternative to em dashes.") It also says that usage should be consistent throughout an article. Technically, then, the title of this show could be written as "Have Gun—Will Travel" or "Have Gun – Will Travel." The reason I chose "Have Gun – Will Travel" is that, of the two alternatives acceptable on Wikipedia, it seems to be the closest to how the title appears in the series itself. Also it's how this article is currently listed on Wikipedia. Feel free to add your comments to my trivia! Wakedream (talk) 05:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ratings
I added a source for the ratings. However, it doesn't specify how the show was rated in each season. If someone wants to add a more detailed source, go for it. Wakedream (talk) 21:16, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] No article on Johnny Western
I just put a link to the Wikipedia article on Johnny Western, and discovered there isn't one. This is what can happen when you were famous before the Internet. I'll likely start one, but can use help. Wakedream (talk) 20:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Title
The whole "have [something], will travel" form of a title isn't necessarily inspired by this show. It's a common kind of trait for older calling cards refering to your job. "Have Spacesuit" and "Have Tux" were just similar titles based on the same concept. I'm not certain they need to be listed in this article. BoosterBronze (talk) 19:37, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
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