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[edit] Fweet! Calling foul (double dribble)

This biography of a sovereignty advocate may have been the target of subtle attempts to insert POV by contrasting a "crappy" or "boring" positive link with a "snazzy" or "less anodyne" negative one. As well as an unfounded elevation of her position to that of "the" leader / "the" most outspoken and visible leader etc.

Retroactively calling POV on 172.193.143.126's update of 12 January 2005, which inserted into Resources, without making clear the sort of material being linked to,

  • a link to a nondescript, poorly typed (spelling errors) interview with some unidentified Canadian publication
  • followed by a link to a "hatchet job" on Trask on David Horowitz's Front Page Mag website (a well-funded, strategic media resource for distributing opinions of a certain political stripe), with the tag "less anodyne" (= less boring than the above). (I also fixed this link to go to the Printable form as the other form no longer seems to work.)

Likewise calling POV on BKH2007's update of 30 June 2004, which inserted into External links (now Resources), without making clear the sort of material being linked to,

  • a link to a mish-mash of sarcastic commentary, facts about Trask's background, and negative reviews of her books, from sovereignty critic Ken Conklin's website — innocuously tagging it "Brief biography"
  • followed by a link to a very short biographical blurb on Trask amidst other books and authors, simply tagged "Another brief biography"

Am also correcting POV

  • "the leading voice" in image caption
  • "considered the most outspoken and visible"—by whom, exactly?
  • and dropped the (misspelled) reference to Ka Lahui, until someone finds out exactly what the "association" is (Mililani Trask + Ka Lahui = 331 hits on Google, Haunani Kay Trask + Ka Lahui only = 198. So a naïve guess would be that Ka Lahui is more closely associated with her sister.)

--IslandGyrl 23:25, 18 August 2005 (UTC)


Been reading H.K. Trask's From a Native Daughter lately. Ka Lahui is mentioned a bit, and the "Governor" is indeed Mililani Trask. Haunani-Kay is involved as well, though. I find it weird that H.K. neglects to point out that Mililani is her sister anywhere in the book, perhaps done strategically to obscure the charge of nepotistic bias.
As for the claim about her being "the most outspoken and visible"--I'd have to agree with the claim. I know this needs to be clarified/referenced to fit within NPOV, but I can't think of anyone who even comes close to her public prominence in the local community with regard to activism. I could cite some pages of From a Native Daughter if need be, though it is her own book. Not that I'm a fan (I'm not) but I think the claim is accurate. Maunakea 04:44, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of Native North American Tag

Native Hawaiians (in Hawaiian, kanaka [oiwi or kanaka māoli) are the Polynesian peoples of the Hawaiian Islands who trace their ancestry back to Marquesan and possibly Tahitian settlers. As such, Ms. Trask would not be considered to be Native North American. --Cafe Irlandais 19:06, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Haunani-Kay's poem

Originally I had just intended to fix a bad edit when I changed the format of Haunani-Kay's poem. But after reading it over I am starting to doubt that this belongs as is in the article. Is it relevant and does it show her perspective on the situation in Hawai'i? Well, I think we can all agree that you don't have to read between the lines to see where she's coming from. I just find it to be a bit over the top to include the whole poem in the article. Maybe just a synopsis with an excerpt would suffice? Cafe Irlandais 00:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Also, I think that the poem should be titled and attributed (is it from a book?). Josephgrossberg 20:31, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
As cited in the article, the poem is from her Light in the Crevice Never Seen. I didn't add it to the article, but I do have the book if it'd be appropriate to cite it further in the references section. As for whether or not it belongs in the article, I could add something about her heavy influence from Postcolonial writer Franz Fanon, who also published non-critical (i.e. non-academic) work to be read in conjunction with his criticial work. As such, I think the poem should be included, with clarification as to its relationship with her academic/activist discourse. Maunakea 04:39, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
As long as the criticism section is reliably sourced in reference to the poem, no problem. It's not, so I removed it. I am familiar with the story about the lecture she gave at UCB (IIRC) and the criticism she received. I'll look for RS on that as well. —Viriditas | Talk 05:03, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


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