Talk:Hand to hand combat
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[edit] WWII era Combatives systems
This page should not hold the WWII era Combatives Systems up as if they were the definative method of training. The military services have learned quite a lot about every aspect of training in the last sixty years. It is also false to claim that the modern systems are any less "Combat Proven". In fact, the modern systems are being proven effective and evolving every day.
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[edit] Name
Wouldn't it be better if the name was "Hand-to-hand combat" with dashes instead of spaces? -- Frap 22:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, that would be closer to proper English than it is now. hateless 18:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merge
I'm not in favor of merging Close quarters combat into this article, from my experiences, CCQ is closer to being a subset or a discipline of hand to hand combat rather than a synonym. CCQ has modern military connoctations which hand to hand does not. hateless 18:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] No, don't merge
Close quaters combat can include weapons of all sort, this can't and they're totally different forms of combat.
82.3.245.220 21:34, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I second that. Close quarters comabat can be two soldiers with combat shotguns shooting each other, while hand-to-hand is well...hand to hand, generally without weapons. Patar knight 21:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Militarily, CQC is defined as ARMED combat in a limited space. HTH combat is less well defined as it can include edged weapons. In short, CQC concerns techniques involving firearms, and HTH is without guns.
[edit] NO to merge
Although Close Quarter Combat (CQC) and Close Quarter Battle (CQB) may include "hand to hand combat" (H2H), these terms do not expicilty imply H2H.
CQC and CQB imply ANY fighting conducting in a restricted or limited (tight) space and could include H2H combat as well a the use of other weapons (guns, explosives, etc...). In this case "close quarters" is relative to the weapons being utilized. If the primary weapons are medium to long rang weapons such as handguns and rifles, then "close quarters" could mean that you are engaged in or around buildings.
All hand to hand combat occurs "close quarters" but the environment could vary from the limited space on an airplane, hallway or parked cars or a space a large as a football field. The fighting is still "close quarters" because the parties engaged are close enough to strike eachother with their own body's, or edged and impact weapons.
[edit] Inconsistency
The article is inconsistent. The title uses "hand to hand" when the text uses "hand-to-hand". --Mika1h (talk) 09:51, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
