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[edit] Tastes bad
I am surprised that there is still not a section that mentions that the grapefruit tastes terrible. Is it not a bit irresponsible to forget that? Otherwise someone might read this article, buy a grapefruit, and have a pretty bad afternoon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.64.181.142 (talk) 23:13, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Requested additions
Could we add some information here about when the grapefruit is in season? Also, one of those boxes with the scientific classification would be nice.
- 2. what is the crop price
- 3. what is the yeld per acre per sezon.
- 4 what are the variation of above variables —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.124.119 (talk) 19:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] questionable info in "colors"
I question the "Colors" section's accuracy. For instance, I cannot find any reference to a Magnolia Grapefruit. Also, I cannot find anything like this scheme anywhere else. The references I can find talk about white, pink and red varieties. Please provide a reference. -- WormRunner | Talk 02:11, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Colors
Grapefruit come in many varieties, determinable by color, which is caused by the pigmentation of the fruit in question in respect of both its state of ripeness and genetic bent.
[edit] GSE info
Can the article's part about the Grapefruit Seed Extract be expanded (widened) a little? Something like http://www.gfex.com/index2.html
Maybe a little background, further applications etc. It's practical usage is a quite valuable information.
- Can someone verify/expand upon the bit about GSE's antioxidant properties? I looked at several abstracts about GSE's antimicrobial abilities, but nothing about antioxidants. Bad ideas 07:19, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- There is an article on Grapefruit seed extract. -- WormRunner 04:13, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hardcore good for you
Anyone see any reason for this?
~~I don't know, but it brightened my day!
[edit] Grapefruit and drug interaction
Can somebody review the info about drug interactions with grapefruit juice. Drug Interactions with Grapefruit Juice: An Evidence-Based Overview is a valuable reference.
- I've never commented in a discussion, so I apologize if I'm out of place. The CYP3A4 inhibitor effects look correct. It's also an inhibitor (although to a lesser extent, I believe) of CYPs 1A2, 2A6, 2C9, 2C19, 2D6, 2E1. Reference here: [1] All operate in drug metabolization to some degree. 2D6 is particularly important.
There's been recent press releases about furanocoumarin being the cause of the increased drug absorption which seems to conflict with the information in this article. This info needs to be corrected. 148.87.1.171
Lots of drugs are metabolised by CYP3A4: I've added a few more that are known. The issue is complicated by the fact that grapefruit juice appears to inhbit primarily intestinal CYP3A4 and not hepatic (liver) CYP3A4. Jed 20:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- This is to vague for me, please post some scientific evidence, since the given link does not really contain cross-references, but only dead-link-numbers. JKW 23:13, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Some odd stuff
[2] Kind of a lame reason to ban the use of the word grapefruit juice. Wonder if its worth mentioning it in the main article? Under some title like "Lame trivia"
[edit] Images
This article definitely needs more images. I don't know how to put images on a page, but if someone does than please do. Try to get at least one with the fruit cut open. loulou 17:23, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Grapefruit seed extract
I have deleted much of the text in medicinal uses, not because I disagree with it, but because it is poorly arranged and redundant. This is hashed out in Grapefruit seed extract and does not need to fill up an article about the fruit. It is enough to note that GSE is not the antimicrobial product it is claimed to be. -- WormRunner 04:11, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Grapefruit Article has Quality Scientific Information about GSE.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia with detailed and well researched information. Science is Beautiful! Please read the information about GSE, however, do not add anymore info to it. Rather, if you want to add more info you can update the original GSE article by going to the link provided. * Access the article on Grapefruit seed extract here. Thanks.
[edit] Citrus paradisi or Maxima ?
I think grapefruit is "Citrus maxima". Citrus paradisi is the latin name of Pomelo. Or maybe it's a french inversion. What we call Pomelo is a sugar fruit and what we call "Pamplemousse" is a more bitter fruit. It seems that in english, Pomelo is the one which is more bitter and grapefruit more sweet. Can anyone confirm ? ThxAbrahami 17:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello Abrahami, I believe citrus paradisi is grapefruit and citrus grandis is Pomelo. I hope this helps. GrapefruitFarmer 02:09, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Forbidden fruit?
Uh, where did this assertion come from? –BozoTheScary 18:15, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Forbidden fruit = grapefruit. Google for the facts. GrapefruitFarmer 21:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, it would have been helpful if the original contributor had Googled for citations. Anyway, there is weak support out there for a fraction of the assertions in the original, so I will revert myself to some degree. Simply put, the first European documentor of grapefruit called it the "forbidden fruit" and a few subsequent other authors. There is no ready evidence to suggest that any other cultures ever called it "forbidden" or that anyone ever thought that it was poisonous, other than those that appear to reference this article. –BozoTheScary 22:11, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Click Here: >>> http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=forbidden+fruit+grapefruit&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-501&x=wrt GrapefruitFarmer 22:36, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yep, they all either reference Hughes or one of his followers-on or just say "was called 'forbidden'" without saying by whom or when. Again, support for Hughes being the one to first name it that, a name that was promptly culturally ignored, but nothing about any groups at any time calling it 'forbidden' nor anyone asserting that it was ever considered poisonous, like the original "Lore" section asserted. If anything, it appears to be too new of a hybrid to have been around long enough for anyone to have called it anything much before Hughes got around to it, much less long enough for there to have been anything even remotely describable as 'lore'. –BozoTheScary 00:55, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] History Section
The history section should be expanded a bit. Additional sentences for the history would improve this article. GrapefruitFarmer 10:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I wonder about the line "Its current name alludes to clusters of the fruit on the tree, which often appear similar to grapes". I have not seen this, since they apear much like any other citrus on the tree. Additionally I have been told the were once "great fruit" which became grape. Rliebenberg (talk) 22:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merging Grapefruit Juice
Merging in the grapefruit juice section makes sense to me. As does merging in the drug interaction page (whole separate list). Jed 21:00, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think the grapefruit juice page except the first sentence is all about the drug interactions, and should merge there. Maybe a one sentence summary here. Gzuckier 21:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree with the suggestion that Grapefruit_Juice should be merged into Grapefruit. Bill Huffman 20:58, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, move Grapefruit juice to List of drugs affected by grapefruit. JKW 23:09, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Colors and Flavors
I am removing the "Ya she is messed up in the head TOTALY MESSED UP". I have no idea why it is there, so I'm removing it
[edit] Colors and popularity
I don't have any specific sources for it, but it would seem to me that the red (or pink) grapefruits have greatly increased in popularity and prominence over, say, the last twenty years. In fact, at least here in the U.S., it's very difficult to find proper white grapefruit anymore in many places. This seems like something that might fit in well under the "History"... JoAnneThrax 15:05, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- Good suggestion. Please find a reference then add to the history section. The entire history section needs expantion. --GrapefruitFarmer 19:49, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Solution to Grapefruit/Grapefruit juice/List of drugs affected by grapefruit
It seems like we have three articles on the same fundamental point - grapefruit juice acts on certain CYP enzymes.
I propose that we eliminate "grapefruit juice" and "list of drugs affected by grapefruit" entirely (redirect to grapefruit), since they revolve entirely around the CYP inhibition effect. Instead of those pages, we can have a brief note in the main grapefruit article about the CYP interactions. That way a reader can follow the link to CYP3A4 or whatever if they want specific information about that.
This way, people who want to know about grapefruits can get relevant information in the article. The article is about grapefruits, not about enzyme/drug interactions - a mere note that it will occur, a brief warning for consumers, and a link to the appropriate articles should suffice. CYP3A4 adequately covers the information expressed in grapefruit juice/list of drugs affected, and does so under a more appropriate title.
Any thoughts, suggestions? My primary concern is that we have multiple articles with the same information, and that we could condense this information and put it into more appropriate articles. 129.170.202.243 07:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Good idea. No sense in having 3 different article about the same thing. I'm curious, since the grapfruit is a hybrid of the pummelo, does pummelo juice also have the same effect? Or is this some freak aspect of hybridization? --Calibas 00:51, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Poorly structured lists
The sections "Health benefits" and "Medicinal effects" are poorly organized and consist of one-sentence paragraphs. I think they could be merged under one heading in 2-3 paragraphs. DiamonDie 12:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cancer study
I think the information on the cancer/grapefruit connection is hugely useful and relevant, well sourced and should definitely be included. I'm not sure why it keeps getting removed. I have reverted, and would like the issue discussed before it is removed again. WLU 17:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
