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The species has a bionomial name, what exactly did golden palace pay for, the right to a common name? If so I'd say they got ripped off. --nixie 22:40, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • They paid for the common name. They have done dozens of promotional stunts, including paying a woman money to officially change her name to goldenplace.com. Kingturtle 23:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    Note that the binomial name is "callicebus aureipalatii"; aureipalatii meaning, you've guessed it, "golden palace" (in not too classical Latin). Though I doubt anyone will actually call this the "GoldenPalace.com monkey" (at worst it'll become the "golden palace monkey") it's bad enough we have to put the article here. JRM 23:40, 2005 Apr 16 (UTC)

Rather than naming the species after himself, a common act among biologists,

what? I'm not a biologist, but I know several, and the understanding I have is that it's a major faux pas to name a species after yourself. You're supposed to name species after people and things that you like/inspired you/etc. Am I wrong and is biology in fact full of egotists? Nohat 05:04, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

you are welcome to fix the language as you see fit. i support such a change. Kingturtle 05:16, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It's not unheard of for scientists to name discoveries after themselves, even biologists have been known to do it. However, it is far more frequent that well respected and known biologists have things named after them by other bioogists. It is truely a rare occurance for the naming of a new species to be auctioned off in this manner. - UtherSRG 05:27, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)

Actually it's against the rules of ICZN for an author to name a species after him/herself. Sometimes you see it, but it's officially named after a parent or wife spouse. --Aranae 22:28, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)
Or husband! Nohat 23:06, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Parent or spouse, certainly. I was thinking of two specific examples. Many women in science retain their maiden name for publication, but certainly not all. Sorry, that was a pretty glaring mistake. --Aranae 23:47, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)
  • What a sad reflection on the scientific world to allow an animal to be named after a company based solely on money. RedWolf 06:33, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)
    • Hah. It's a sad reflection on the world of scientific funding is what it is. 24.76.121.176 00:41, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Is this name already officially published? Ucucha See Mammal Taxonomy 17:58, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps not in a scientific journal, but it's been all over the newswires. We may have to make some edits after it's formally published in a journal, but what we have is good for now. - UtherSRG 21:23, May 7, 2005 (UTC)
Thus I have not overseen a new species :-). Ucucha See Mammal Taxonomy 05:27, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Why are there 2 families listed in the taxonomy? Kaldari 15:49, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Wronmg template. I have corrected it, though that subfamily one could easily go away. Circeus 17:33, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Move to Golden Palace Monkey?

Reasons to move:

  • GoldenPalace.com appear to prefer "Golden Palace Monkey" as the common name; see goldenpalacemonkey.com.
  • The Latin name just means "golden palace"
  • "Golden Palace Monkey" is nicer.

Reasons to leave alone:

  • Google test indicates usage is split 50:50.

14:03:04, 2005-08-01 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Groves did not include Callicebus aureipalatii in the MSW update coming out this December, so we can't use that fallback. Of the Google hits, what is the split on the more scholarly sites? - UtherSRG 14:40, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

No hits on scholar.google.com. Using the Latin name as a proxy for "scholarly" I see that "GoldenPalace.com Monkey" is winning 85:10. Gdr 15:21:39, 2005-08-01 (UTC)


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