Talk:Godzilla: Final Wars

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Contents 1 Childrens fantasy films? 2 when is it coming out in America 3 Some information edits 4 Gorath 5 Contradiction 6 Heavy Edit 7 Zilla 8 Fair use rationale for Image:Zilla.JPG 9 article tone 10 Gotengo vs Godzilla 11 Film references

[edit] Childrens fantasy films?

Why, why, WHY is this tagged as a kids film? It's not a cheesy happy-ending wonderbread flick, it's a rather involved movie about the freaking destruction of the entire culture of planet earth! The Xilian aliens lose their human flesh when they die in a rather gory fashion, and the whole thing just reeks of "not really fitting in with the rest of the films in this category"

-Rain-winged Angel

[edit] when is it coming out in America

I have been surfing for weeks trying to find a U. S. release date for final wars,does anyone know?

I saw a premier for it last night (8/8/2005). Not sure if/when the mainstream or even limited release is.

• EARLY SEPTEMBER!--wattamb2000

[edit] Some information edits

The music section was missing the fact that composers Daisuke Yano and Nobuhiko Morino, who did music for Ryuhei Kitamura's past films, contributed much of the music used in the film and that Sum 41’s song “We’re All to Blame” was also used. Also Akira Ifukube's Godzilla Theme and some of Masaru Sato's Godzilla music were used in the film.

-Onward2Vengeance

[edit] Gorath

Is Gorath an asteroid, or a neutron star? I know the english dub and subtitles say it's an asteroid, but I seem to remember direct Japanese sources stating that it was a neutron star, and this wouldn't be the first time that Sony has tried to write down Godzilla's strength via English releases.

I thought in the subtitles said that Gorath was a "planetoid", I just watched it a few nights ago and I think that the Xilians called Gorath a small planetoid, but then again that might not make any sense since its on a crash course for Earth in the movie. Unknown Dragon 20:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction

One of the major points in the plot summary is that the aliens capture all the monsters in "beams of light" before introducing themselves at the EDF headquarters... and yet, when Godzilla is reawakened, he suddenly fights various previously-mentioned monsters on his way to Tokyo. How did they get back there, if they'd been captured by the Xilians? This needs some explanation in the plot summary. RandyWang 04:32, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

If memory serves, I think the Xilians unleashed the monsters again after their plan had been rumbled. They then attacked cities, forcing the Gotengo to release Godzilla to fight them. However, it has been ages since I've seen that film, so my memory is a little hazy. I won't edit the article in case I'm wrong, but I think that's what happened. SMegatron 11:53, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Yup, the "Xilian kid" set 'em all loose again.

He shot the older controller and took over himself. Of course, he was heavily disappointed. Scorpionman 16:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Heavy Edit

I've read through numerous edits and revisions of the plot summary of this film here at Wikipedia, and it appears to me to resemble more of a movie review. In response, I will take the liberty of eliminating most of the plot summary and its details, and shortening it to seem much more serious. Its style and length make it obvious that fans and enthusiasts have written it up, but for the general public who stumble across it or intentionally look for it, they will find it much too displeasing due to the heavy spoiler content (of the battles and individual conflicts) and "fan fiction" style, (sort of). However, I am not saying I dislike it, as I am a serious and indepth G-fan myself, and kaijuologist. I just think it would be much more convenient and nicer looking. Additionally, it would greatly reduce the total size of the page, and make it quicker and easier to browse. Lastly, it appears as though the last person who edited/rewrote it was of a younger age, perhaps preteens or earlier, as indicated by the numerous and consistent spelling errors, and lack of attention to obvious detail or established facts/beliefs. If anyone is strongly opposed to this change, please go to my talk page and state your oppositional complaint and your reason for your standing. I understand how some might find this change too drastic, and I respect that, but I feel it needs some considerable tidying up. Also, some may find it to lack much detail, but how much detail should one give away? I think what I have planned for the page should be sufficient enough. It will inform readers who are unfamiliar with the page or movie without giving away major details.--Super Editor 00:06, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zilla

Why didn't they have Zilla go through New York instead, since he's technically an "American" monster? They should've had Rodan attack Tokyo or some such city. Scorpionman 16:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

That would probably seem repetetive, since Zilla has already attacked New York. Basically, since this version of Zilla is just a slap in the face to the original (we need a "American Zilla vs. Japanese Zilla), they're not going to put him in New York again.

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Zilla.JPG

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BetacommandBot 11:26, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] article tone

I find the article to be poorly written in tone and incoherent and just one long blow-by-blow description of the movie and lacking much importance. And sentences like Xilian Commander decides to give the old "Before you die I'm going to tell you all of my little Secrets of my Magnificent Plot" treatment. Unfortunately, the sentence opens the droning paragraph and can't be removed. I don't even know where to begin with this article other than just flag it. Alan--24.184.184.177 04:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gotengo vs Godzilla

Where do the years from this article come from? The film being set in 2020 makes sense, but did the battle between Godzilla and the Gotengo really take place in the 1960s? That would mean Captain Gordon is at least 70 years old? Unless he aged really well, am I missing something here? Wouldn't it make more sense that it took place sometime closer to 2004, the year of the movie's release? The montage of the opening credits do sort of imply that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thinkbui (talk • contribs) 08:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Again I have to ask where they come from. Someone keeps adding and changing them. Seriously, cite a source for them.Thinkbui (talk) 08:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Film references

Why does the section "Film references" keep getting reverted? If we're going to have a section on what films GFW references, then why shouldn't it list how it references those films?? Scorpionman 14:34, 27 October 2007 (UTC)