Talk:Girl (The Beatles song)

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[edit] Removal of lyrics

Hi,

I have removed the lyrics added to this page. Without permission from the copyright holder it is an infringement of these rights to publish the lyrics in any form.

Please do not add complete reproductions of lyrical material that are still in copyright. As interesting as they are to read it is not permissible. The only way to deviate this is to add a link to another page where the lyrics have been reproduced. Although the link page will also be a breach of the copyright it will at least be someone else who is infringing this and not Wikipedia.

Pepperstool 08:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moved from article

"Lennon stated that he used "Girl" to indirectly slam the Catholic church. By referring to "pain [leading] to pleasure", he expressed his conflicting views with the religion."

Contradicts this and this, where Lennon is quoted as saying that it was about a dream girl that hadn't come yet, possibly Yoko Ono.--194.145.161.227 23:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Co-written(again)

According to McCartney, this song was composed during one of Paul and John's writing sessions out at Kenwood(Lennon's place).(I'm quoting 'Many Years From Now' yet again) Paul: It was John's original idea, but it was very much co-written. I remember writing 'the pain and pleasure' and 'a man must break his back', it was all very working-on-the-chain-gang. (...) So I credit that as being towards John but I put quite a bit in. It wasn't one of those that he came in with fully finished at all.--84.208.240.143 00:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Ummm.... So edit the article and change it to something that reflects the evidence you've found. Make sure it is cited properly. John Cardinal 15:21, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

"According to McCartney, he wrote the lines "Was she told when she was young that pain would lead to pleasure" and "That a man must break his back to earn his day of leisure."[4] But in a 1970 interview with Rolling Stone, Lennon claimed this was his own early dig at the Catholic Church."

John may indeed have regarded the lyrics of this song to be his own early dig at the Catholic Church, but that doesn't exclude the possibility of Paul coming up with those exact lines. (Although, in his book, Paul only takes credit for 'pain and pleasure' and 'a man must break his back'; NOT the complete sentences, as someone has stated in the article.) I mean, don't the remaining lines of this song(and there are a few) contain any attacks at all? Or are all the attacks of the Catholic Church guaranteed to be limited to those two lines?

Surely not.

I don't find that John's 1970 interview contradicts what Paul has got to say about the matter at all[BUT in a 1970 interview...], unless someone manages to convince me that 'pain would lead to pleasure' and 'a man must break his back...' are HUGE attacks, while the remaining lines are just sweet nothings. --84.208.224.234 (talk) 02:20, 8 February 2008 (UTC)