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I would like to take issue with the idea that just because Chris Tolkien stated in the Silmarillion that Amarie was the beloved of Finrod that that totally rules out the idea that Gildor could not have been the son of Inglor/Finrod. At the time of the writing of the Fellowship of the Ring, Inglor was still the name of Felagund. His Vanyarin love back in Valinor probably wasn't even in existence yet. In HoME, Finrod's descendents are discussed, as the debate on Gil-galad's parentage includes the debate over if Finrod had a wife in Middle-earth. Chris Tolkien states that Amarie was one possible idea of his father's and not the final decision. Sephiroth9611


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It should also be noted that Finrod died several decades before the War of Wrath, and that he returned from the Halls of Mandos relatively quickly. There is a reasonable time frame for him to return and give birth to a son who would either march with the host in the War of Wrath, or else return in a similar manner to Glorfindel. This would explain why Gil-Galad remained the last king. Perhaps a term for his return may have been to disinherit the crown. (Miguel Wonham 04:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC))

It is extraordinarily unlikely that Tolkien ever intended or thought of Gildor as Finrod's (let alone Finarfin's) son. Any son of Finrod Felagund would have been a person of the highest rank and status-- as prestigious as Galadriel, Elrond, and Gil-Galad. Gildor is never mentioned apart from the encounter with the hobbits. And he isn't listed in any genealogical tree. He is presented as an Elf of much less standing. When he says he's from the House of Finrod, he clearly means that he's from the "people of Finrod," not a direct descendent and heir of a Noldorin High Prince.169.253.4.21 (talk) 15:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)TexxasFinn


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