Talk:Giclée
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[edit] Question regarding link appropriateness
Would a link to art sites such as http://www.12stoneart.com/ be appropriate for this article? The giclee-making process is decribed at http://www.12stoneart.com/about/printing_process.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.98.190.235 (talk) 02:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC).
- On online art gallery (that apparently opened this week) selling the works of two artists? Probably not. Robertissimo 05:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cleanup
I have cleaned up this article a bit. Integrated redundant repeating paragraphs. There seemed to be a lot of confusion between the various imprecise trade names flying around in the “fine arts print” business and the actual technical description of the hardware and processes them selves. To correct this I have made the Iris printer article about the iris printer, redirected Iris prints to Iris printer, and incorporated deleted content from Iris printer into this article. Fountains of Bryn Mawr 00:31, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] You have to learn that simpler is sometimes better
A giclee is JUST an inkjet print. The very word 'Giclee' was invented to make a one-off print seem worth more $$ than it really is. I could make a Xerox copy of something and call it 'Tonee-Sublime`' and charge more money for it. Selling a Giclee for $500 is easier than selling an Epson Inkjet print for the same money, because people are stupid. Come off your high horse and stop getting in the way of concise information.
- You have to learn that inserting opinion into an article is not allowed on Wikipedia WP:NPOV. The article already explains that this is a made up word (thanks to revisions by yours truly). Now... if you can find an article where someone notable in the field explains what a "crock of s**t" the word Giglee is the go ahead and insert and cite it. You just can't insert your own opinion.
- BTW "Giglee prints" printed off, say an Epson 9800 printer, are not "worth more $$ than they really are", and can be being sold for way less than they are worth. If a print cost $50 to make, times 3 to get that poor artist a profit, and then 2 times more for the galleries end, you get a base sales price of $300.... $600 if someone is going to distribute it (advertising and all that nasty stuff is not even included yet). I as an artist sell such a print for $300, which as you can see, is barely break-even profit wise and I take a bath if a distributor sells it. $500 is a good round price set by someone with more buisness savy than me. Fountains of Bryn Mawr 13:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
User:Dstoer -- Could you please sign your posts? Please use four tildes to sign your posts. Thank you. Bus stop 14:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
The assumption that a giclee print costs $50 to make is the real problem here... There are a lot of giclee prints being sold by galleries for $600 that cost $3-$10 to make. Whereas the article makes the comparison between litho and giclee, the more realistic comparison would be with serigraphy, which cost much more than giclee, and which was formerly price-pointed where giclee is now. Of course, in contrast to litho, serigraphs are superior in every way to giclee prints in having texture, transparency, and custom mixed individual colors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 (talk) 22:05, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
- Giclee has nothing to do with serigraphs. Serigraphs are original images with the artist sometimes making the screens. Giclee is simply another way to duplicate an original work via the photo-mechanical 4 color offset printing method, the same as 4 color offset lithogrophy. It simply uses an injet printer in place of lithographic plates. Current pricing on Giglee's is around $20 a square foot. 69.72.2.71 04:36, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Deleted "How it Works"
I deleted the added section "How it Works" because it was:
a) redundant
b) bullshit - Giclée is not a technology, it is a trade name used to cover Iris, ultrachrome or other inkjet technologies.
c) Full of florid unsubstantiated claims such as "whole new vibrant medium for art" and "superior to traditional lithography".
d) plagiarized- this was simply copy/pasted from websites such as [1], [2], [3].
69.72.2.71 21:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Neologism
This article describes a Neologism and seems to meet the standards at Wikipedia:Avoid neologisms. As such it describes a word and its usage -- that is the "thing" described here, i.e a name coined to mean prints created on inkjet printers. What someone may then go on to do with that inkjet print[4] is not relevant because it is done with many other printing methodes that resualt in canvas prints, for example "Repligraphs". Also this seems to be the editors first hand observation and therefor original research. 69.72.7.122 (talk) 19:58, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- I have added the reference to "painting on top of the image" to the Canvas print article. 69.72.93.221 (talk) 20:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
