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Welcome to WikiProject Ships

Hello Geronimo20, and welcome to WikiProject Ships! Please see the navigation sidebar on our main project page for information about our project guidelines, resources, and pending tasks. You can post any questions at the project talk page. Thank you for joining - we look forward to working with you! Maralia 14:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 21 November 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article HMNZS Canterbury (F421), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Zzyzx11 (Talk) 23:47, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

John Lambert (naval historian)

A tag has been placed on John Lambert (naval historian), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of the article and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Arx Fortis (talk) 06:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

HMNZS Resolution (A14)

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Use "Move" feature

Hi. I seen you where trying to move HMNZS Resolution (A-14) to HMNZS Resolution (A14). Instead of copy and paste the page contents and using redirect, its better use the "Move" feature in wikipedia. The previous page will automatically get a redirect to the new one and the history and talk pages will be copied over as well. Now its not possible to move the page without administrator intervention. :-) --ZacBowling^talk 05:41, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Lake class PBs

I used the link in sources and links at the Lake class patrol boat page, which has all the pennant numbers. I'm not sure why someone din't see this before. In future, better to use the ship's year of commissioning - like 'HMNZS Kelburn (2009)' rather than HMNZS Kelburn (X) if you don't know the pennant number. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 07:08, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

HMNZS Canterbury (F421) - false claims

When you change the name of an article (also known as a move), please do NOT do so by copying over the text! That effectively destroys the integrity of the history. If you cannot move an article because the target name already exist, please call an admin to help - he can move it over the existing name, and keep the history intact. Ingolfson 13:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Looking closely at the issue, you also violated the rules by creating this as a "new article" (by copying it over from HMNZS Canterbury (F-421)), then set it up to be published on the main page in the DYK category as an article "which you created or substantially expanded". This is incorrect, because:

• a) the article would not have been valid for DYK (creation or x5 expansion within the last days before main page publication)
• b) you actually REDUCED the article in scope and content (which I will yet revert, once I have time to look at it closely)
• c) the text was and is mainly composed of research and wording that I (for the text) and others (for the technical data) did - and not your work. Heck, even the image is mine.

I am not quite sure what to think of your actions. They are certainly against policy and very impolite. Ingolfson 13:48, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Whoa... well now that I've stopped reeling from the upper cuts and kicks to the groin, let me 'fess up and admit that, yes, I am indeed just a bumbling rookie editor trying to learn the ropes.

I have been trying to fill in some of the gaps and tidy up the entries on historic RNZN ships. One glaring problem was inconsistent formats with the ship pendant numbers. Australian and British practice seemed to be to exclude spaces or dashes so I asked an established editor of Royal Navy articles to confirm this, which he did. Then I committed the first of my sins. I thought I could do this by copying and pasting (I have asked for this to be repaired).

My next sin was to remove some details you had apparently entered concerning preparation for the sinking of the Canterbury. This was because the event was over, the ship was sunk, and a lot of the contemporary details were now past and receding into history. If that offends you then just restore your text.

My third sin, it seems, was to "set it up to be published on the main page in the DYK category". Well that was the last thing on my mind, and I was completely surprised when that happened.

And my final sin, it seems, was that I claimed this article "as an article "which you (myself) created or substantially expanded"". Well that again was the last thing on my mind. When I "created" the article I put a summary there that said that it was redirected from Canterbury (F-421).

So please accept my apologies Ingolfson if you feel trampled upon. I would like us to work together rather than in opposition like this. --Geronimo20 21:06, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

My apologies in turn as per comment on my own page. Ingolfson 08:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Torpedo boat destroyer

Maybe I missed the point. I'd put in Steam Torpedo Boat (hoping the page got created) because it's ancestral, & Steam Gun Boat & Farmile C as related subjects, which is the idea, isn't it? Trekphiler 07:49, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Not offended one bit. I didn't know about the other pages. If she's shipping water over the deck, jettison. Or shoot a line across & unload her. ;) Trekphiler 08:18, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

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mindstream

wow man..you weren't kidding! i started cracking up as soon as the page loaded. il ike how heavily sourced the article is...but sourced with translations of foreign texts. Did the translators invent a word to make the translations more intelligibile? unlikely. New agers have this damn tendency to see unassociated and even completely disconnected paradgims as equivalent (there's a word for when people do that, i just can't remember what it is .... synchronism?).

Some other articles that can make a fun read are New age, Time travel, Shaman and Ramtha. That last one isn't written particularly poorly, it's just a funny topic. here's a quote:

"When Knight claims she is channelling Ramtha, she speaks only English, although in an accented and sometimes simplistic way and has expressed confusion about modern items ("What is a carrot?") while also professing intimate knowledge of worldly affairs and conspiracies."

--Shaggorama 03:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 18 December 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Royal Naval Patrol Service, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri (talk) 13:22, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Formatting - List of ships of the Royal New Zealand Navy

Glad to be of help.
To be honest I don't know why non-breaking spaces are needed.
They are recommended though, see Help:Table#Examples and the paragraph just above the "Examples" heading.
"For empty cells, use the non-breaking space   as content to ensure that the cells are displayed."

I've found that if double pipes are used as in the Help:Table#Multiplication_table example, the non-breaking spaces aren't needed.
BTW (By-The-Way), the change took only a few minutes - I cut and pasted into MS Word, used "Find and Replace"/"Replace All" and pasted it back into the Wikipedia edit page.

Regards, JohnI (talk) 09:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Tone on Naval trawler

Hi Geronimo20, let me explain. The issue there was the following lines: "Replace the trawl with a mine sweep and you had a minesweeper. Trawlers also have large clear working decks which can be suitable for depth charge racks. Add asdic and a 4-inch gun up front and you had an anti-submarine boat." Take a look at the suggestions under WP:TONE; wikipedia articles should try to avoid the use of "I", "we", "you", and "your" in favor of a more formal tone. Thanks for your contribution; I'll fix it and remove the tag. Regards, Pnswmr (talk) 14:49, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Royal Naval Patrol Service

Hi Geronimo20, Have you tried searching the Imperial War Museum's database at: http://collections.iwm.org.uk/server/show/nav.00g005 ? British government photos from World War II are also now in the public domain. A photo of one of the Patrol's ships should also be obtainable, and would be a better illustration of the service than a photo of a German mine off Australia. --Nick Dowling (talk) 06:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm no expert on British copyright laws, but I believe that WW2-era photos on the IWM database are now out of copyright and can be used. You'd need to pay to get a version without the watermark though. --Nick Dowling (talk) 10:05, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter — Issue XXII (December 2007)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXII (December 2007)
Project news The Intelligence task force has been created. The contest department has completed its ninth month of competition. The top scorer this month is Blnguyen, with 22 points, followed by Dreamafter, with 8 points, and Redmarkviolinist, with 6 points. Blnguyen also remains the overall leader, with 162 points in total. All project members are encouraged to submit the articles they're working on as entries. Help with converting deprecated infoboxes is needed; any assistance is welcome! {{WPMILHIST}} now supports an explicit tag (class=DAB) for marking disambiguation pages.	Articles of note New featured articles: Battle of Albuera Battle of Dyrrhachium (1081) Battle of the Gebora Constantine II of Scotland Francis Harvey Vasa (ship) Wulfhere of Mercia New A-Class articles: 1962 South Vietnamese Presidential Palace bombing Evacuation of East Prussia
Current proposals and discussions A discussion about minimizing terminological ambiguity has begun.
Awards and honors Blnguyen has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his efforts in improving the quality of articles related to Vietnamese military history, including the creation of numerous A-Class articles. Woodym555 has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his outstanding work on topics related to the Victoria Cross, notably including the creation of featured articles, featured lists, and a featured topic. For their outstanding efforts as part of Tag & Assess 2007, Bedford, TomStar81, and Parsival74 have been awarded the gold, silver, and bronze Wikis, respectively.
Tag & Assess 2007 Tag & Assess 2007 is now officially over, with slightly under 68,000 articles processed. The top twenty scores are as follows: 1. Bedford — 7,600 2. TomStar81 — 5,500 3. Parsival74 — 5,200 4. FayssalF — 3,500 5. Roger Davies — 3,000 6. Ouro — 2600 7. Kateshortforbob — 2250 8. Cromdog — 2,200 9. BrokenSphere — 2000 9. Jacksinterweb — 2,000 9. Maralia — 2,000 12. MBK004 — 1,340 13. JKBrooks85 — 1,250 14. Sniperz11 — 1100 15. Burzmali — 1000 15. Cplakidas — 1000 15. Gimme danger — 1000 15. Raoulduke471000 15. TicketMan — 1000 15. Welsh — 1000 15. Blnguyen — 1000 Although the drive is officially closed, existing participants can continue tagging until January 31 if they wish, with the extra tags counting towards their tally for barnstar purposes. We'd like to see what lessons can be learned from this drive, so we've set up a feedback workshop. Comments and feedback from participants and non-participants alike are very welcome and appreciated.
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HMNZS Rotoiti details

Hey there, I'm just uploading a photo of this ship and I noticed that in the information box on the right it says "Status: Fitting out" when it's now active. I went to edit the page but couldn't see how to change it and, seeing as you're a major contributor to this article I was wondering if you knew how to..(?)

Thanks, Kotare (talk) 10:05, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Sorry yeah I just assumed she was active seeing as I saw her out on the water - is this sort of info. just availible on the NZ navy website? Kotare (talk) 04:43, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I have made no false claims!

I would be grateful if you could discuss this on my discussion page before deleting things. For example, I never said I created Hundred Years' War (1337–1360) but did dispute a significant claim that Edward III’s caused an Italian banking crisis. Chwyatt (talk) 08:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, I saw the edit history before I saw you reversed it. Cheers Chwyatt (talk) 08:58, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Wow...

Thank you! I shall pass your congratulations onto my friend who created the animations for me.

Please, nitpick away... this has to get to Featured Article status, and the more we can get right now, the less I have to worry about later. -- saberwyn 10:46, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

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DYK

On February 8, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Japanese submarine I-17 , which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:49, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

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