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Please abstain from reverting edits made for a cited reason, without citing better reasons of your own. Larvatus 06:33, 2 November 2005 (UTC)larvatus.

Hello! Regarding your comment at Talk:JT_LeRoy: "People, who still believe that JT LeRoy is a 25 years old man, should maybe ask themselves why they want to believe it." You are casting aspersions on people in a way that sounds like a slur. Please try to focus on improving the quality of the articles and refrain from using talk pages as a chat forum or for personal attacks. Thanks! -- IslandGyrl 17:22, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Bisexuality, the Celts and Durer 2 msn? 3 Image copyright problem with Image:Antin02.jpg 4 Filmography? 5 "bi" the way 6 Dictionary nonsense 7 References

[edit] Bisexuality, the Celts and Durer

Hello, can you say a bit about your reasons for abridging those topics on the Pederasty page? Haiduc 13:03, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Dürer probably had similar interests like his Italian counterparts in Florence, so he shouldn't be grouped together with artists, who were most likely not homo- or bisexual, as Rembrandt, for example.

I replaced the sentence on Dürer since it is true of his painting, whatever his tastes might have been. If you can find a source discussing his possible love interests we should mention them. I happen to think you are right about Dürer, but we need a citation.

The original remark about bisexuality was just to general, it makes the reader believe that there must always be a connection between bisexuality and the love for male youths. However, many famous men from the Italian Renaissance were said to be purely homosexual (it's maybe a typical Catholic phenomenom, hehe).

I see where you are coming from. I have reworded it so make it more flexible, but the generalization holds true for the Greeks, Japanese, Melanesians, Florentines, Arabs, you name it.

About the celts - I already read this in a book, when I was hardly adolescent, and according to this quote there weren't lying together with males and females on each side of the bed, but with two comrades. Maybe the translators were interpreting this in such different ways.... I don't know, I only read the German translation of this passage. Fulcher 14:40, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I used to think that Herodotus meant they had a boy on each side, but Hubbard sees it diferently; I have added the citation.

Thanks for picking up these issues, and for the other additions too. Haiduc 16:31, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I made a mistake. I thought it was Strabo, but the remarks about gauls having two pertners in bed comes from Didorus Siculus' work. Here is another translation:

http://home.earthlink.net/~ekerilaz/weerdingemen.html (scroll down to the last paragraphs) Fulcher 18:49, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] msn?

So, you're really from Bavaria? Do you have msn? Kingjeff 19:12, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

1. yes (I live in Munich)

2. no (I don't have msn) :-) Fulcher 19:56, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I plan on moving to Munich soon. Kingjeff 00:12, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Antin02.jpg

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[edit] Filmography?

You didn't like the movies? Haiduc 14:27, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I think they dion't belong on the list, because of the definition. We can discuss that over there... Fulcher 16:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "bi" the way

I think I know what you want to get across, and I have tried to keep the sense while discarding all modern nomenclature - I have become convinced it is totally out of place and misleading when discussing the distant past - not because it is necessarily incorrect, but because people have such ideas fixed in their heads, and will project them onto the ancients, and it will be wrong. Haiduc 01:50, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but..... do you take this personal? I just thought that earlier definitions had too many generalisations. Fulcher 20:11, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Nothing is personal. You are probably right. That's why I wanted to make it more precise. Haiduc 23:01, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dictionary nonsense

I agree with your view that the dicdefs are inappropriate as defining factors. Did you agree with all the edits that user made to the article? Haiduc 04:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, he has a similar attitude like Lavartus, who wanted "to protect" his philosophers, while SC is "defending" his Iranians. Sooner or later, he will get tired, just like the rest.

I think the way this definition is now presented in the article (by briefly explaining the context) looks very profound. We could even speculate, whether the people from Merriam-Webster merged pederasty with the latin term "pedicatio". Fulcher 13:23, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References

Thanks for your posting to the pederastic couples articles. Would you be so kind as to give a reference for that material? I am trying to be more systematic about this, it makes the material much more valuable for the readers. Thanks, Haiduc 22:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I got the information only from websites, to be honest...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/King-James-Letters-Homoerotic-Desire/dp/0877456690 http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/history/king_james_gay.html http://www.nwlink.com/~scotlass/jamesvi.htm http://www.freewebs.com/jupiter1024/james.htm Fulcher 13:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)