User talk:Franceslynn

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Contents 1 WorldCat 2 Reference formatting 3 Image upload 4 When a talk page grows to an unwieldy length 5 Changed archive bot 5.1 New setup 5.2 Explanation 5.3 Werdnabot may be down, but

[edit] WorldCat

Recommend that you have your publisher have your works listed at:

WorldCat "WorldCat is the world's largest network of library content and services"

I look up all books here. Carry on...IP4240207xx 01:23, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, my publisher who retired this year doesn't know how to do this - i.e. list my works on WorldCat. Frances Lynn,author 14:21, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reference formatting

I recommend you get wider opinions on this. The problem is, you're being advised by one user with a particular view (as we all have in some stylistic areas) on reference formats. I couldn't give figures, but a large proportion of users don't bother with {{cite web}} and similar.

More particularly, the format used by Fiddle Faddle for the reference section in Maley & Taunton and Epsom College is highly non-standard. It's usual to cite the reference, but not quote it in full unless there are special crucial circumstances. Click on random article at top left a few times and see how often you see this.

That scrollbox arrangement is actively forbidden: see Wikipedia:CITE#Scrolling lists. Wikipedia talk:Citing sources should be able to advise further. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 16:35, 14 December 2007 (UTC Thanks for this .... I didn't even know I had a scrollbox arrangement. Shall look into this. Frances Lynn,author 16:58, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm really happy for wider advice to be sought and received. No single user here is correct, but the community holds sway. I'm also happy for the scrolling to be removed. However the reference cited for it is a guideline, and thus "should be followed" rather than "actively forbidden" :) There is, of course, WP:IAR, but that should be taken sparingly Fiddle Faddle (talk) 18:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Wise decision. Frances Lynn,author 18:39, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image upload

As long as the person who uploaded the picture follows the image use policy, then it should be ok. VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 05:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I hope he did upload the picture following the image use policy, but I think he did. Frances Lynn,author 07:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] When a talk page grows to an unwieldy length

Some people choose to delete old material, others choose to archive it. If you edit my own talk page you will see, at the top, some of the "stuff" there refers to archival, if you wish to use it. Feel free to copy it over and edit it into the head of your own talk page, or as your adopter for help.

This section deals with gettingthe bot to perform archiving:

<!-- BEGIN WERDNABOT ARCHIVAL CODE -->
<!-- This page is automatically archived by Werdnabot-->
{{User:Werdnabot/Archiver/Linkhere}} 
<!--This is an empty template, but transcluding it counts as a link, meaning Werdnabot is directed to this page  - DO NOT SUBST IT -->
<!--Werdnabot-Archive Age-10  DoUnreplied-Yes  Target-User talk:Timtrent/Archive 5-->
<!--END WERDNABOT ARCHIVAL CODE-->

Note the line

<!--Werdnabot-Archive Age-10  DoUnreplied-Yes  Target-User talk:Timtrent/Archive 5-->

It is vital to edit that line to read:

<!--Werdnabot-Archive Age-10  DoUnreplied-Yes  Target-User talk:Franceslynn/Archive 1-->

The "Age-10" refers to time in days after which a "dead topic" will be archived.

That sets the bot to perform archiving, but it does not give the readers immediate access to your archive page.

Thge section:

{| class="infobox" width="200px"
|-
!align="center"|[[Image:Vista-file-manager.png|50px|Archive]]<br>
[[Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page|Archives]]
----
|-
|
*[[User talk:Timtrent/Archive 1|Up to 21 June 2006]]
*[[User talk:Timtrent/Archive 2|Up to 14 September 2006]]
*[[User talk:Timtrent/Archive 3|Up to 13 December 2006]]
*[[User talk:Timtrent/Archive 4|Up to 31 August 2007]]
*[[User talk:Timtrent/Archive 5|Current Archive]]
|}

is the one I use. You will need to edit it to be appropriate for you - probably:

{| class="infobox" width="200px"
|-
!align="center"|[[Image:Vista-file-manager.png|50px|Archive]]<br>
[[Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page|Archives]]
----
|-
|
*[[User talk:Franceslynn/Archive 1|Up to ''date of your choice'']]
|}

Then, on the archive page itself you will want to add:

{{talkarchive}}
{{atn}}

And you create the archive page by following the link after you place User talk:Franceslynn/Archive 1 on your talk page :)

This is all for the future, but your talk page is growing fast and may well need archival soon.

Fiddle Faddle (talk) 12:36, 16 December 2007 (UTC) Thanks for this. I shall study it but it might be safe to ask my adopter too. Frances Lynn,author 12:45, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Fiddle Faddle seems to have basically said what I was going to say in similar words, also these links might help you in archiving your talk page.

• Help:Archiving_a_talk_page
• User:MiszaBot/Archive_HowTo (Cut&Paste, for MiszaBot III)
• User:ClueBot_III#How_to_archive_your_page (Cut&Paste, for ClueBot III)

Hope these links prove useful. VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 14:51, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks .... there is so much to learn! Frances Lynn,author 15:17, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure either of us would be happy to do it on your behalf, but it is generally considered polite to wait until asked to do anything other than talk on a talk page :). Additionally, but trying yourself, even if you make a horlicks of it, you will learn far more.

Take it steady and do it a step at a time. There is no urgency. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 16:51, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I want to do it myself - even though I do find it all difficult. And I'm glad there is no urgency at the moment. Frances Lynn,author 19:51, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

The only urgency is artificial! When you get brassed off withe the length of this page, that is the time to act! The more you play the more fun it gets, though! Fiddle Faddle (talk) 20:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I shall have to act soon!Frances Lynn,author 20:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Have I archived my talk page correctly? Frances Lynn,author 19:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Almost! Would you like me to tidy up for you and you see what I change? Fiddle Faddle (talk) 23:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes please. That would be very helpful to me. Frances Lynn,author 23:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

THIS page is done. I added a heading (tidiness, removed a </pre>, and a spare link (no longer needed). Going to archive 1 next. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 00:17, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Archiving will now happen when the bot next runs and encounters all the conditions it meeds in order to archive parts of the page. I'll keep an eye on it and see when it runs first. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 00:20, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I see. I almost did it! But, thanks a lot for helping me on this one ..... (I shall now tell my adopter). Frances Lynn,author 00:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I doubt if I could have done this properly by myself though so shall have to study the links my adopter gave me. Frances Lynn,author 00:36, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changed archive bot

I changed the archiving bot from Werdnabot to MiszaBot (to be specific MiszaBot III), because it seems that Werdnabot is not working anymore. Also the current settings are as follows-

[edit] New setup

{{User:MiszaBot/config
|maxarchivesize = 250K
|counter = 1
|algo = old(48h)
|archive = User talk:Franceslynn/Archive %(counter)d
}} (This should appear at the top of your talk page)

[edit] Explanation

• It will archive the first 250 Kilobytes [|maxarchivesize = 250K]
• It will start archiving at User_talk:Franceslynn/Archive 1 [|counter = 1]
• It will archive any topic that has not been replied to in the last 48 hours [|algo = old(48h)]
• It will automatically create a new archive when the limit (maxarchivesize) is reached.

VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 00:56, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Werdnabot may be down, but

Hi Vivio... Shadowbot 3 has taken over its functions and had already archived the page before you changed it :). I guess there are no issues as long and they both use the same archive, esp since the one you chose creates new archives automatically. The index to the archive files has also gone when you edited it for Miszabot, I fear. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 07:34, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Now, I'm confused ....! Frances Lynn,author 09:30, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, me too! Vivio took something that works and altered it to something else that works, but edited a little too much. I'm not going to start undoing what he did coz that woudl be silly, but we do need him (the male gender included the female, yadda yadda yadda) to come back and complete what he did. Or undo it, I guess! I left you with a working system, the one he chose to replace it with may be better :) Fiddle Faddle (talk) 09:34, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I fixed it and put the link to the archives back. again. VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 10:38, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot everyone! (but intend to study the links on how to archive anyway). Frances Lynn,author 11:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)